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[Brutus]

Originally Posted by POINDEXTER

What combination is correct?

Also, is there any way to lose weight while maintaining a fair sized drinking habit?

I had a buddy in college that was about 70lbs over weight and he was determined to drop the weight or at least some of it. He went out about 4 nights a week and was normally pretty wasted. He swore by vodka and water and Bacardi and Diet coke. he ate healthy and worked out as many times a week as he drank. He ended up losing 55lbs over the course of 18 months or so. I was pretty astonished at the before and after pics but he did it, good for him. Oh, and he says if the liquor you drink is clear it has less calories. I wouldn't necessarily say that is true but he did lose the weight.

[POINDEXTER]

Originally Posted by Brutus

I had a buddy in college that was about 70lbs over weight and he was determined to drop the weight or at least some of it. He went out about 4 nights a week and was normally pretty wasted. He swore by vodka and water and Bacardi and Diet coke. he ate healthy and worked out as many times a week as he drank. He ended up losing 55lbs over the course of 18 months or so. I was pretty astonished at the before and after pics but he did it, good for him. Oh, and he says if the liquor you drink is clear it has less calories. I wouldn't necessarily say that is true but he did lose the weight.

I'm gonna try it.

[pillow]

Drinking stops your body from making new proteins, so if you work out and then immediately leave to go out, they pretty much cancel each other out.

But yeah! Try and go to vodka or gin and you'll be ok, I bet.

I've always wondered what marijuana does to your muscles

And as far as ACE is concerned, I have never tried it. Here's what wikipedia says, ECA stack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ninjastix]

Thanks for the info, I can't lose weight for anything...

Apparently I have no problem putting on muscle but my weight will not go down... Last night I did 1200 calories between an elliptical and the treadmill... murder on the knees when you're at my weight so I've been trying to find something credible to see if I can jump start my metabolism...

I'll talk to my trainer about this stuff...

[Esox Express]

Originally Posted by Ifightforaliving

arsenic is a thermogenic you can buy at gnc not the poison

Do you mean Arson? I think you have some people confused

Bodybuilding.com - Muscle Asylum Project Arson - Torch Fat! On sale now!

[Ifightforaliving]

naw its arsenic thats what the bottle says anyways

[kc56]

Ifightforaliving,

If it is the stuff you and I talked about, it is called Arson by Muscle Asylum Project. It comes in what looks like a huge prescription bottle and the pills are green and black. Arsenic is rat poison.

I am currently using it, have noticed better work outs, losing fat and having much better cardio. I think I'm at about 6-9 lbs lost and am about 2/3rds through with my bottle. My friend that reccomended it lost 20 lbs in 30 days and says it was pretty much all fat.

What I like best about it is that I don't feel all "cracked out" when I am on it like other supplements I have tried. Also, I tried Clen and absolutely hated it. I was sweating and felt like I was going to die, and felt super cracked out. I still have a half a bottle and will never touch the shit again.

Arson so far gets my top approval for fat-burner.

Also, Ifight, if you are looking to add to your bench, or for anyone who lifts, Gakic is awesome.

[Ifightforaliving]

Yeah I am trying Arson now. But the stuff I was using was called arsenic. I was like wtf isn't that poison? My friend has it at this healthfood store he works at.