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[AudieMurphy1]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

Welcome, and nice detailed post - I look forward to reading more from you.

However, I strongly disagree with this statement and it'd be good if you could elaborate for me.

I've always been led to believe (through reading and experience) that there is no 'best way' as everone's body is different. Is is possible that you have discovered the best way for you rather than the best way for everyone?

git.

nice catch...i have to agree, most eating regiments wont work for me because of my high metabolism, i've learned to double up

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by AudieMurphy1

most eating regiments wont work for me because of my high metabolism, i've learned to double up

Yeah there's that, and there's also a few other things that I would contest being even good, let alone 'best for all', in that plan. One example is that 1-2 meals a day, irrespective of the potential nutrition and digestion issues, would just make me fucking depressed (which in several round about ways would hinder my workout regimen and general health).

I will give it this: it is an easy way. Easy ways though, imo and also by definition, bear easy results.

With all that said, it must have worked for AB1 so I have no problem with it being touted here as a valid plan, just not as 'the best' plan.

git.

[Alwaysbelieve1]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

Welcome, and nice detailed post - I look forward to reading more from you.

However, I strongly disagree with this statement and it'd be good if you could elaborate for me.

I've always been led to believe (through reading and experience) that there is no 'best way' as everone's body is different. Is is possible that you have discovered the best way for you rather than the best way for everyone?

git.

Thank you very much for the warm welcomes.

"everone's body is different"- precisely my point. For me there is a best way as there is also one for you. Once you find it- stick with it until a better one for you comes around.

This is usually how I eat most of the time only changing from time to time:

Meal 1:
- Option A- Protein shake with peanut butter, coconut oil, flax see oil, apple cider vinegar, and psyllium seed husk fiber added to it.
- You can put ½ cup of oats into the shake and blend it well so they are virtually undetectable.
- Option B - a 3-5 eggs with (1/3 – ½ cup of Old Fashion oats or 2 slices of whole wheat berry toast).

Meal 2: Protein Shake (w/o all the added fun stuff) or Bar (with about 30g of protein in it)

Meal 3: Good Lunch-
Limit any PB & J!!!(this is because of sugars)
NO DELI/LUNCH MEATS- they contain high sodium and fat regardless if it claims to be lean the fillers it contains have fat)
balanced with protein first(so you don’t lose muscle),
good carbs(low- intermediate glycemic index- chart in another thread),
and good fats(olive oil, flax oil, peanuts, etc. no trans).

Meal 4: Protein Shake (w/o all the added fun stuff) or Bar (with about 30g of protein in it)

Meal 5: Good Dinner- (same as lunch breakdown)

Optional Meal 6: Protein Shake Only (before bedtime)
-Mix some Psyllium Seed Husk Fiber into this shake.


When losing weight stay away from juices, soda, high sugary fruits (good for you in vitamins, but because of the sugar bad when you are dieting to lose weight), any other kind of sugary treat, and keep track of all sodium intake.
Eat a lot of good fat. The more good fat you eat the less you will have on your body- as long as you keep your carbohydrates where you should- at all times.

Make sure that you drink half your body weight in ounces of water every single day! This is very important.

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by Alwaysbelieve1

Thank you very much for the warm welcomes.

You're welcome I looked at your website and it seems your advice is valuable. I sure appreciate you dishing it out for free here with no benefit to yourself.

Originally Posted by Alwaysbelieve1

"everone's body is different"- precisely my point.

Ok, it seemed like you meant the opposite when you said, "I am only trying to show you the BEST way. There are other ways, but there is only one BEST way." Glad you agree with me.

Originally Posted by Alwaysbelieve1

"Meal 1:
- Option A- Protein shake with peanut butter, coconut oil, flax see oil, apple cider vinegar, and psyllium seed husk fiber added to it.
- You can put ½ cup of oats into the shake and blend it well so they are virtually undetectable.
- Option B - a 3-5 eggs with (1/3 – ½ cup of Old Fashion oats or 2 slices of whole wheat berry toast).

Meal 2: Protein Shake (w/o all the added fun stuff) or Bar (with about 30g of protein in it)

Meal 3: Good Lunch-
Limit any PB & J!!!(this is because of sugars)
NO DELI/LUNCH MEATS- they contain high sodium and fat regardless if it claims to be lean the fillers it contains have fat)
balanced with protein first(so you don’t lose muscle),
good carbs(low- intermediate glycemic index- chart in another thread),
and good fats(olive oil, flax oil, peanuts, etc. no trans).

Meal 4: Protein Shake (w/o all the added fun stuff) or Bar (with about 30g of protein in it)

Meal 5: Good Dinner- (same as lunch breakdown)

Optional Meal 6: Protein Shake Only (before bedtime)
-Mix some Psyllium Seed Husk Fiber into this shake.

You said previously that you take 1-2 meals + 4-5 shakes. You are now saying 2-3 meals + 3-4 shakes (which imo is far more reasonable). Perhaps you should edit one of your posts for continuity/clarification?

Personally, if time permits I will have only my morning shake, bed time shake, and if required a PWO shake - the rest will be real food because I agree with your recipe thread assertion that one should "Try to eat as close to nature as possible. If you do that you will see amazing results and feel even better."

One more thing is that I will always have whey in my breakfast whether in a shake or to supplement a meal (you have it as 'optional') - it is the fastest way to get some protein into your system and snap out of the catabolic state.

Anyways, thanks for clearing up the 'best way' misunderstanding.

git.

[Alwaysbelieve1]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

You're welcome I looked at your website and it seems your advice is valuable. I sure appreciate you dishing it out for free here with no benefit to yourself.



Ok, it seemed like you meant the opposite when you said, "I am only trying to show you the BEST way. There are other ways, but there is only one BEST way." Glad you agree with me.



You said previously that you take 1-2 meals + 4-5 shakes. You are now saying 2-3 meals + 3-4 shakes (which imo is far more reasonable). Perhaps you should edit one of your posts for continuity/clarification?

Personally, if time permits I will have only my morning shake, bed time shake, and if required a PWO shake - the rest will be real food because I agree with your recipe thread assertion that one should "Try to eat as close to nature as possible. If you do that you will see amazing results and feel even better."

One more thing is that I will always have whey in my breakfast whether in a shake or to supplement a meal (you have it as 'optional') - it is the fastest way to get some protein into your system and snap out of the catabolic state.

Anyways, thanks for clearing up the 'best way' misunderstanding.

git.

Regarding when and how many shakes to take can be as variable as your schedule is.
For example- today I had 2 food meals and 4 shakes. This is very typical for me since when I train my clients I go back to back for 6 hours and cannot sit down and eat a food meal. Shakes come in very, very handy for my schedule.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Alwaysbelieve1

Regarding when and how many shakes to take can be as variable as your schedule is.
For example- today I had 2 food meals and 4 shakes. This is very typical for me since when I train my clients I go back to back for 6 hours and cannot sit down and eat a food meal. Shakes come in very, very handy for my schedule.

With having to have shakes for that many meals per day, you might want to throw in some fiber and either some veggies (spinach in a shake isnt bad at all) or a greens supplement like greens+ (if you can't blend anything) to help inmprove the macro/micro nutritient profile of the shakes and make it a bit easier on your digestive system.

[Alwaysbelieve1]

Originally Posted by Clint

With having to have shakes for that many meals per day, you might want to throw in some fiber and either some veggies (spinach in a shake isnt bad at all) or a greens supplement like greens+ (if you can't blend anything) to help inmprove the macro/micro nutritient profile of the shakes and make it a bit easier on your digestive system.

Indeed I do take fiber. I take psyllium seed husk in my morning shake as well as 1-2 inulin fiber tablets 3x per day. I have been doing this for years.

I am well educated on diet, nutrition and supplements not only because of my professional fitness trainer cert., but also due to my 3 years with GNC as an area supervisor.

I always try to provide the best for my body disregarding cost since one really can't put a price tag on one's health.

[BIG FLO]

I have heard that milk acts to prevent the protein from helping to heal your muscles after a workout, therefore to stay away from drinking milk right after you have worked out and then consumed protein. Is this true? It seems that based on what you are all saying, milk is good to mix with protein after a workout...

[Clint]

Originally Posted by sretchin

I have heard that milk acts to prevent the protein from helping to heal your muscles after a workout, therefore to stay away from drinking milk right after you have worked out and then consumed protein. Is this true? It seems that based on what you are all saying, milk is good to mix with protein after a workout...

Milk is okay to mix with protein PWO but water would be better in this case since Milk is largely casein which has a slower digestion rate and thereby will somewhat slow down the absoption of the whey.

[BIG FLO]

Thanks for the info, Clint.