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[CRisCO]

But in all likely hood pitts is going to win the cup IMO.

They where an awesome team before Sid the Kid came back now they are just silly good.

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio

No love for the Rangers or Blues?

Number 1 seeds do not win Stanley Cup titles and it has not happened since the lock out. Tampa Bay was the last 1 seed to win a title back in 2004.

Bruins - 3 seed
Blackhawks - 2 seed
Pitt - 4 seed
Red wings - 2 seed
Ducks - 2 seed
Hurricanes - 2 seed

Actually since the lock out only One number 1 seed has ever made the Stanley Cup finals and that being the Canucks last year. So history just says the worse seed to be in the Stanley Cup playoffs is the number 1 seed.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Number 1 seeds do not win Stanley Cup titles and it has not happened since the lock out. Tampa Bay was the last 1 seed to win a title back in 2004.

Bruins - 3 seed
Blackhawks - 2 seed
Pitt - 4 seed
Red wings - 2 seed
Ducks - 2 seed
Hurricanes - 2 seed

Actually since the lock out only One number 1 seed has ever made the Stanley Cup finals and that being the Canucks last year. So history just says the worse seed to be in the Stanley Cup playoffs is the number 1 seed.

Yea, but that's kind of like a "Madden Curse" belief system. What's an X's and O's reason you don't see them advancing?

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio

Yea, but that's kind of like a "Madden Curse" belief system. What's an X's and O's reason you don't see them advancing?

There are a number of factors:

1. The number 1 seed usually comes from the worse division (Caps come to mind). So the team is not really as good as their seed suggest.

2. The lower seeded teams have been battling for their playoff lives for a good month or two before the playoffs start. So these teams have been in playoff mode for a while now. So when they make the playoffs the intensity is already there. Whereas the 1 seed sometimes has things clinched up for about 2 or 3 weeks is just on coast mode. So when they run into these teams they have to play catch-up in the intensity factor.

3. The regular season rewards finesse and the playoffs rewards physical play. Look no further then the Bruins from last year and the Flyers from the year before. The Bruins last year only had 1 30 goal scorer and that was it. But this was a team that just hit and beat you up game after game so at the end of a 7 game series you were barely skating. They basically beat the fight out of the Canucks and them cowering at the end of the series. The fact they were so physical allowed them to come back against the Habs in the first round. So in the playoffs you run into match-ups where teams on paper have more talent but lose the series cause they can't keep up the physical play needed to win. Usually the 1 seeds are the teams with more talent and the 2/3 seeds are the more physical teams.

[kalebarker]

Originally Posted by Masscore

Number 1 seeds do not win Stanley Cup titles and it has not happened since the lock out. Tampa Bay was the last 1 seed to win a title back in 2004.

Bruins - 3 seed
Blackhawks - 2 seed
Pitt - 4 seed
Red wings - 2 seed
Ducks - 2 seed
Hurricanes - 2 seed

Actually since the lock out only One number 1 seed has ever made the Stanley Cup finals and that being the Canucks last year. So history just says the worse seed to be in the Stanley Cup playoffs is the number 1 seed.

Originally Posted by Masscore

There are a number of factors:

1. The number 1 seed usually comes from the worse division (Caps come to mind). So the team is not really as good as their seed suggest.

2. The lower seeded teams have been battling for their playoff lives for a good month or two before the playoffs start. So these teams have been in playoff mode for a while now. So when they make the playoffs the intensity is already there. Whereas the 1 seed sometimes has things clinched up for about 2 or 3 weeks is just on coast mode. So when they run into these teams they have to play catch-up in the intensity factor.

3. The regular season rewards finesse and the playoffs rewards physical play. Look no further then the Bruins from last year and the Flyers from the year before. The Bruins last year only had 1 30 goal scorer and that was it. But this was a team that just hit and beat you up game after game so at the end of a 7 game series you were barely skating. They basically beat the fight out of the Canucks and them cowering at the end of the series. The fact they were so physical allowed them to come back against the Habs in the first round. So in the playoffs you run into match-ups where teams on paper have more talent but lose the series cause they can't keep up the physical play needed to win. Usually the 1 seeds are the teams with more talent and the 2/3 seeds are the more physical teams.

Your logic is completely flawed. You are counting out the blues and rangers for being number one seeds. You justify it by saying number one teams are skilled and not physical but the Blues and Rangers are the exact type of team you describe as being built to win the cup. Do you really think they are less likely to win the cup as a no 1 seed instead of a number 2 seed?

Also if you think a team needs to be build physical and yet you in the original post 3 out of 7 Stanley cup winners you mentioned won based on skill (Tampa, Detroit, Pittshburgh).

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by kalebarker

Your logic is completely flawed. You are counting out the blues and rangers for being number one seeds. You justify it by saying number one teams are skilled and not physical but the Blues and Rangers are the exact type of team you describe as being built to win the cup. Do you really think they are less likely to win the cup as a no 1 seed instead of a number 2 seed?

Also if you think a team needs to be build physical and yet you in the original post 3 out of 7 Stanley cup winners you mentioned won based on skill (Tampa, Detroit, Pittshburgh).

Ummm Detroit and Pittsburgh are two of the most physical teams around. People just do not notice because they have some great skill players.

And yes honestly I do think there is some disadvantage to being a 1 seed in the NHL. How can someone not think that when only 1 team since the lockout has made the Stanely Cup as a 1 seed. I do not know exactly why it happens but there are a number of factors of why it could. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the 4-5 seed can be better then the 2 or 3 seed. I really do not know I just know the 1 seed never fairs that well once the playoffs roll around and thats a proven fact.

Do I think the Rangers have a chance, yes I do. They are a really good team. But at the end of the day when they have to play Pittsburgh I think the Penguins win that series. Which is why they are my favorite to win the Cup at the moment. The Flyers are overrated, the Bruins are injuried and Pittsburgh is catching fire at the right time and just got back arugably the best player in the entire league. They are currently the favorite for the Cup, sorry Rangers.

[kickass32]

Many times to, the team who wins the Presidents trophy tend to "blow their wad" to win it.
the team I would not want to face in the opening round is Buffalo, they have been playing great hockey, and "playoff hockey" for a while now...momentum goes a long way in the NHL playoffs.

St.louis is a good tean no doubt, but they are a relatively inexperienced team, they will not win the Stanley cup because of it....the young teams that have just reached greatness need to learn to lose before they actually win the whole thing.

NYR, also a very good team, but if the play Buffalo in the opening round, I am calling for the upset.

Pittsburgh, on paper has to be the odds on favorite, they have, arguably the best 2 players in the game, as well as a very good goalie, and a ton of experience. If Letang can stay healthy, they should be considered the favorites.

[Masscore]

5 games to go for most teams and so much is still up for grabs.

The Panthers can still catch the Bruins for the 2 seed.

Ottawa, Buffalo and Washington are all battling for the final 2 seeds.

Potential for two huge first round match-ups between rivals. Pens v. Flyers and Sabres v. Bruins.

Thats just the East! In the West its seems like every single team still has a chance to make the playoffs.

I love this time of year.

[Masscore]

Would like to give props to my Bruins for becoming the first and only team in the history of the Northeast Division to repeat as champions.

Now only if we can become the first team in like what, 15 years or so years to repeat as Stanley Cup Champions.

[Masscore]

Congrats to Kevo must be had. Panthers fnally end the drought and make the playoffs. Good luck and I hope to see you guys in the 2nd round.