NHL lockout looms
NHL lockout looms as talks hit wall | The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram
The league is asking for far too much.
For those of you who don't know, the League is going into it's collective bargaining negotiations with the NHLPA and demanding what amounts to a 1.2 million rollback in player salaries, restricting new and rookie players to one team for the majority of their playing careers, and eliminating the players ability to rely on salary arbitration for contract negotiations when they are in a restricted status... aka work for less than the market would say they are worth. This list goes on for restrictions and rollbacks.
Basically they are trying to rape the players for the mistakes their own GM's and owners have created, by offering ridiculously over-extended contracts. Also by over-expansion and placing teams in non-traditional markets, they have resulted an unhealthy economic status for half the league, which they expect the players to pay for. All of this despite the fact the league is posting record profits year after year for "healthy teams" who are unwilling to profit share as the NFL does with it's less healthy teams.
Pisses me off......the owners basically drove spikes into the hearts of the players during the last lockout, implementing everything they wanted and the players gave in....the owners won!!
Now they say they can't survive on the current deal, one that they themselves came up with to cripple the NHLPA????? Basically the owners want a dummy-proof agreement in place to save them from THEMSELVES!!!
I agree the current trend in 10-15 year contracts is retarded, 7-8 probably should be long enough, the % of revenue shared should be in the 50/50 range.
Bettman is the fucking tool that felt the need to expand into non traditional marketplaces and now he wonders why they can't "make" it......doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize Phoenix is a losing market, Carolina, Florida.....meanwhile Hamilton and Quebec City sit idle with NHL caliber fans....hell Hamilton sold 16,000 season tickets in a day a couple years ago when Jim Balsillie tried to buy Pittsburgh and move them to Southern Ontario.
It's fucking disgusting
Bettman takes over in 94, and this will be his 3rd lockout in 18 years, and just 7 years after the last lockout, which ended up wiping out the entire season
Revenue has almost doubled since the last lockout, the NHL gets a semi-regular contract with NBC sports. L.A. (a market the NHL wants desperately) just won the cup, the Pantehrs made the playoffs for the first time in forever. Winnipeg just got a team back, Minnesota just made the two biggest signings of the off season, and that city fucking loves hockey.
The NHL is at one of it's highest points in terms of revenue and popularity ever, and the are actually going to lock the game out?? I understand that up in Canada, they can lock out the game and the fans will be foaming at the mouth waiting for it to start again. But that isn't necessarily going to be the case with all the American markets, specifically the non traditional ones that may have gotten a few more fairweather fans as of late. Those are the kinds of fans that might once again forget the NHL exists if they go into a long work stoppage
^ I am also in agreement with the post above about Bettman's reluctance to see that hockey isn't going to work in certain markets. If they set up a team in Quebec City, and another one in Ontario to go along with Winnipeg, that would be 9 Canadian teams. WHich equals 9 healthy strong revenue generating markets pumping money into the league. Combine those with the strong American markets like Boston, New York, Minny, Pit, Philly, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, and all of a sudden, over 2/3rds of the league is in a strong position
I am just absolutely disgusted at the thought of not being able to watch hockey this year. And so soon after the last lockout, it makes the league look like a joke
This is bullshit i've been hearing about this on the score for a while now and if the NHL owners pulls the plug on the season that would be tragic. The current state of the average NHL fan (especially where i live in Chicago) is a very fair weather breed. If a lockout happens i don't know if the NHL would be ever as profitable as it is now. Lets face it the NHL will never be bigger than the other three sports in the states but it still can make a lot of money. They would just be shooting themselves in the foot if they do this and this is just my opinion but would need to contract some teams when and if they do come back some markets really do not need a NHL team IE.. Tampa, Nash, Carolina, Columbus, Vancouver JK on the last one.
I have been a fan of the Blackhawks since Roenick, Larmer, and Belfour were on the team. I still have a Toney Amonte Jersey hanging in my closet and of course the traditional nameless red jersey. I usually go to a couple home games a year if i can get a good price on tickets (which has gotten really tough since they won the cup).
If the owners lockout the players i may be out completely because they are just being stupid at this point and greedy. It just makes me feel like old man Wertz is still running things and doesn't give a shit about the players or the fans
Can we go back to ZERO salary cap. I could always count on my Wings outspending everyone else then :-D
But seriously this lockout is a bunch of BS. Both sides are asking for too much. Actually scratch that, the players are asking for a little too much, the Owners are asking for THE WORLD.
The players better do a better job than last lockout of explaining to the public what their disagreement with the owners is about. Last lockout all of the casual fans were lambasting the players for being greedy bitches when that is far from the truth. The owners are asking for some things that are revolting.
A franchise should not have the ability to sign and keep a rookie for 10 years or however they like.
That makes it sound like how pro sports were in the 70's and earlier when the team basically owned the player when they drafted them
I pretty much blew my load talking about this over at the hockey site I go to, but this whole situation just pisses me off!
So here is my big question and my main concern...
What boring game/activity is going to come to light if the lockout happens? As I recall poker wasn't anywhere near a tv until a hockey lockout. Now it's everywhere. It is not a damn sport and should not be on a sport network, along with bowling and darts. There should just be a game network.
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