Try again. Shields was in the UFC before Jones even became champion, and Condit was well on his way to becoming a contender-having recently knocked out Hardy, before Jones became champ.
And obviously, when we're talking about Jones "cleaning out the division", that goes well beyond the date that he first won the title.
Jones has done a great job of cleaning out the division, for whatever that's worth.
But LHW has never been close to as deep as WW. If you want to argue, you can argue that it was better or worse than LW at the time Jones won, but if you really think it was close to as deep as WW, I can't help you.
At least he's got something right in the eyes of everyone.
Cain would kill him. Everyone knows that.
Wait til he grows into his big boy shoes. Then maybe who knows.
Cain will kill him, goose will kill him, tex... come on.
I'm not so sure anybody's beating this man, even IF he does go HW.
Knee kicks, arm cranks, elbow smashes... this is a bad man that may very well destroy the HW div when he gets there.
I said before I dont like the guy but face it, he fights like a motherfucker.
It's all speculation.
I was joking, hence the eyes pun.
Hopefully we will see him move up in a couple years. Imagine if he remains undefeated at LHW once he does make the move. Talk about hype.
I'm with Tongan. Jones is a bad mother fucker. I don't think its a given that anyone beats him.
I would put down serious money that Jones would lose to anyone in the HW top 10.
Exactly. I think even a big guy like Lavar Johnson would probably be too much for him
Originally Posted by Fe1
Bad example. Lavar has no takedown defence, but I get what you're saying.
Originally Posted by 1inthechamber
I don't have a problem with his "flip flop". When he said it, he had just destroyed a group of LHWs that were seen as the best LHWs ever with ease. He probably thought he could step up to HW with no problem. But after fighting a guy that was more similar in size, he probably started to realize how important his size advantage was in his success.