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    Ed O'Neil, a student of the Gracies, that is nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob
    Definitely. I always think about some quote, I think from one of the Gracies a long time ago. He said something like "On the feet, things are more equal. Everyone always has a chance to win, has some ability. But on the ground, I am a shark and most people barely know how to swim."


    I love that quote, and it's true. Just like you said, even if they have some wrestling experience, it's damned hard to wrestle with broken limbs or a lack of consciousness.


    I also think it's easier to finish a guy off. Knockouts are difficult to get unless you are very skilled or have good power. Even then, they're rarely clean KO's. But a submission is ideally quick, clean, sure, and not something someone can recover from quick enough for it to matter. Especially if you combine strikes and submissions together on the ground.
    heres the deal noob no matter what i wouldnt wrestle some guy i dont know in the street i would poke ur eyes out and bite ur balls if i had to and then my friend would kick u in the face in the street ground is no good fall down stand right back up i dont care what it takes bad things happen down there


    Edit: Found the quote:

    "When we go to the ground, you are in my world. The ground is the ocean, I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim."

    Alternately ascribed to RCJ or JJ Machado
    heres the deal noob no matter what i wouldnt wrestle some guy i dont know in the street i would poke ur eyes out and bite ur balls if i had to and then my friend would kick u in the face in the street ground is no good fall down stand right back up i dont care what it takes bad things happen down there

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    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    heres the deal noob no matter what i wouldnt wrestle some guy i dont know in the street
    Well, now that I know you are against the idea of taking someone to the ground in a street fight, please enlighten me as to what you would do.


    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    i would poke ur eyes out and bite ur balls if i had to and then my friend would kick u in the face in the street.
    Lol, well not all of us have a friend following us around at all times for personal protection.


    And as wonderful as your eye-poke and ball-biting method may work, I think I'll stick to Jiu-jitsu for the time being, though I appreciate the recommendation.


    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    ground is no good fall down stand right back up i dont care what it takes bad things happen down there
    Lol, 'ground is no good' huh? Go jump one of the Machados and tell me that.


    Bad things happen, it's just that they normally happen to the guy with no ground game. And in all seriousness, of course I recognize the inherent danger in fighting someone on the ground. It would be a stupid idea if you're fighting a group of people, and even stupider if you pull guard and wait all day for a sweep.


    I'm assuming that if you're smart enough to dress yourself every morning then you're smart enough to not be a moron about ground-fighting in street situations. Maybe that's assuming too much.
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    Steve Irwin trained with Greg Jackson...

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    Steve Irwin has been a member of team Jackson since 2004. He lives and trains out of Beerwah a town in Queensland Australia and trains with Danny Higgins and Kyle Noke. Greg Jackson also travels to Australia and trains with him, both in the United States and in Australia.

    Stephen Robert Irwin was born to Lyn and Bob Irwin in Victoria in February 1962. Bob Irwin was a keen enthusiast of reptiles and moved his family to Queensland in 1970 to start a small reptile park at Beerwah on the Sunshine Coast. Australia Zoo became a true family business, flourishing until 1991 when Bob & Lyn retired, turning over management to their son, Steve.

    Living in the Zoo, Steve grew up with animals of all kinds, taking part in the animals daily feeding, care and maintenance. His 6th birthday present was what he had always wanted his very own scrub python! It was 3.6m (12ft) long and while most other children were opening cans of pet food for their cats or dogs, Steve was out catching fish and hunting rodents to feed to his crocodiles and snakes.

    Bob taught the young Steve everything there was to know about reptiles even teaching his nine-year-old how to jump in and catch crocodiles in the rivers of North Queensland at night. This father and son's proud boast is that every crocodile in their Zoo (the numbering some 100 animals) was either caught by their bare hands or bred and raised in their Zoo.

    As he grew older Steve followed in his father's footsteps and volunteered his services to the Queensland Governments East Coast Crocodile Management program which saw him spend years living on his own in the mosquito infested creeks, rivers and mangroves of North Queensland catching huge crocodiles single-handed. His record of successful catches is still staggering to this day.

    Since 1991, Australia Zoo has flourished and expanded under Steve's guidance. In 1990 a chance reunion with his friend, television producer John Stainton, filming in the Zoo for a TV commercial, gave Steve the opportunity to show his diverse animal talents to the world when they both took a punt and make the first documentary, "The Crocodile Hunter" in 1992.

    The tremendous success of this one program quickly encouraged the making of more and so over the next 3 years, 10 one hour episodes were made and on television screens all over the world. Steve has now filmed over 70 episodes of "The Crocodile Hunter", 53 episodes of "Croc Files", 43 episodes of "Croc Diaries" and his next television series is called "The New Breed Vets" for release in 2005.

    Steve has the greatest respect and understanding for all animals something that has been instilled into him by his family for all of his life and he's proud to share his passion with everyone who visits his Zoo and with his five hundred million viewers world-wide.

    In June 1992, Steve married Terri Raines from Oregon USA. They had met a few months earlier when Terri visited the Zoo whilst on holidays in Australia. They now spend their lives together educating people everywhere to care for all of our world's wildlife.

    Special thanks to the crocodile hunter web site for Steve's Biography

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    No offense, but that had very little to do with this thread.


    For something as off-topic as that, it's better to create another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob
    No offense, but that had very little to do with this thread.


    For something as off-topic as that, it's better to create another thread.
    I disagree. Speranman is simply pointing out that MMA is useless against stingrays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelegendrvb
    I disagree. Speranman is simply pointing out that MMA is useless against stingrays.

    Lolol.


    Fuck, well there goes my entire weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob
    Well, now that I know you are against the idea of taking someone to the ground in a street fight, please enlighten me as to what you would do.




    Lol, well not all of us have a friend following us around at all times for personal protection.


    And as wonderful as your eye-poke and ball-biting method may work, I think I'll stick to Jiu-jitsu for the time being, though I appreciate the recommendation.


    look at what happend at the last tuff the kid went for a armbar and got his head split open. And it has nothing to do with a crew of friends following me around. what about his friends think they will let u sub his boy?Originally this about fighting at the bar!!!!! So even still if you think bjj is that great and you have a defense for eye pokes, and biting,and testical swipes, please enlighten me on how you can get around that. bjj is for fights with rules and tournament purposes only

    Lol, 'ground is no good' huh? Go jump one of the Machados and tell me that.


    Bad things happen, it's just that they normally happen to the guy with no ground game. And in all seriousness, of course I recognize the inherent danger in fighting someone on the ground. It would be a stupid idea if you're fighting a group of people, and even stupider if you pull guard and wait all day for a sweep.


    I'm assuming that if you're smart enough to dress yourself every morning then you're smart enough to not be a moron about ground-fighting in street situations. Maybe that's assuming too much.
    look at what happend at the last tuff the kid went for a armbar and got his head split open. And it has nothing to do with a crew of friends following me around. what about his friends think they will let u sub his boy?Originally this about fighting at the bar!!!!! So even still if you think bjj is that great and you have a defense for eye pokes, and biting,and testical swipes, please enlighten me on how you can get around that. bjj is for fights with rules and tournament purposes only.And if im smart enough to dress my self in the morning lol . get real have u even ever been in a fight before? im gonna say no by the way you speak so uneducated about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    look at what happend at the last tuff the kid went for a armbar and got his head split open.
    You mean the TUF kid who went for an armbar while on his back on concrete? Jiu-Jitsu or not, that was just stupid. But it doesn't prove your point at all.



    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    So even still if you think bjj is that great and you have a defense for eye pokes, and biting,and testical swipes, please enlighten me on how you can get around that.
    Lol. It's adorable that you've concocted your own little fighting system that encompasses testicles and eye-gouges. Of course things like that are effective, they work and there is no disputing that. They are great additions to an already established skill-set, and even though they go a long way, they don't make you a good fighter by itself.


    However, your 'liguid' courage-fueled attempts to 'swipe' at someone's testicles are not a replacement for actual training. Fighting dirty can give you an edge, but it only goes so far.


    Your ball swipes vs. a blackbelt isn't much of a contest. Unless you have a comparable skill level it's going to be damned hard for you to grab his balls with a broken arm.




    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    bjj is for fights with rules and tournament purposes only.
    I disagree.




    Quote Originally Posted by liguidmoney
    have u even ever been in a fight before? im gonna say no by the way you speak so uneducated about it.
    Lol, that's cute. Yes, I have been in my fair share of fights.


    Have you ever had any formal training in any form of grappling worth speaking of? I'm gonna say 'no' because of the way you 'speak so uneducated about it.'
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    Ed is a brown belt in BJJ, and I think he trains mostly at Rorion's school.

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