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Thread: Spoilers - Clay Guida talks wrestling, Anthony Pettis talks about performance

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    The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale winner Clay Guida: Wrestling wins championships | MMAjunkie.com

    LAS VEGAS – UFC lightweight contender Clay Guida's grappling-heavy victory over Anthony Pettis (13-2 MMA, 0-1 UFC) may have done little to wow some fans, but "The Carpenter" doesn't regret the strategy.

    Sure, he would have liked to finish the fight just as much as Spike TV-viewers probably hoped to witness such a result in the co-feature of Saturday night's The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale event, but it simply didn't happen.

    Nevertheless, Guida (29-11 MMA, 9-5 UFC) never thought once about straying from his wrestling-based approach. After all, Guida is simply following a blueprint established by countless others – control the position, control the fight.

    "Wrestling wins championships," Guida told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com). "Look at most of the champs right now, and some of the people that have a hard time. Anderson Silva is one of my favorite fighters, and you've seen that he has trouble with good wrestlers like Chael Sonnen.

    "Cain Velasquez is one of the best wrestlers out there. Georges St-Pierre is a phenom. He's one of those athletes that comes around once every 100 years. The guy could probably go wrestle in the Olympics. You saw he used to struggle with wrestling. Now he's a master of it. Jose Aldo has a couple of holes in his game. We saw besides maybe his gas tank, it could be wrestling. Mark Hominick is not a great wrestler, and he was taking him down.

    "There's no secret anymore. Wrestling wins championships."

    Like it or not, it's hard to argue with Guida's logic. The gritty 29-year-old used his wrestling skills to nullify the acrobatic Pettis' patented "Showtime" attacks. The approach sometimes left the crowd wanting more, but it also led to Guida taking all three rounds on all three judges' scorecards.

    "We knew grappling was going to be the key," Guida said. "We know he's a very long, rangy striker, very creative, one of the most imaginative strikers I've seen in my weight division. … We caught him in the exchanges when his hands were up, and when he was throwing punches, I was shooting and trying not to get kneed in the face."
    Despite losing title shot, TUF 13 Finale's Anthony Pettis finds a silver lining | MMAjunkie.com

    Those around him may lament the loss of a promised title shot, but Anthony Pettis refuses to dwell on the what-ifs.

    The final WEC lightweight champion and would-be top UFC contender opted to take a fight with Clay Guida rather than wait on the sidelines for a shot at the gold.

    Guida derailed Pettis' momentum with a grinder-like performance at The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale on Saturday. But Pettis isn't a regretful guy.

    The fight co-headlined Saturday's event at The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas. It was one of five that aired on Spike TV after a free preliminary-card stream on Facebook.

    Pettis (13-2 MMA, 0-1 UFC) – who scored a series of highlight-reel knockouts prior to the UFC-WEC merger – could have maintained his title shot with a win in Saturday's UFC debut. But he's no longer at the front of a line for a shot at current champ Frankie Edgar or upcoming title challenger Gray Maynard.

    So does he regret his decision to fight rather than wait? Does the decision loss to Guida (29-11 MMA, 9-5 UFC) now provide a harsher sting?

    "Not at all," Pettis said. "I feel I had some holes in my game, and Clay Guida and (Guida's trainer) Greg Jackson did a great job of having a good gameplan. I've got to go back to the drawing board and get better there."

    Pettis is dangerous to anyone on his feet, and though he has a solid submission game, Guida exposed a glaring weakness: wrestling defense. "The Carpenter" wore down the Duke Roufus-trained Pettis with frequent takedowns, a dominant and smothering top game, and better results from the clinch.

    Still, some thought the eventual 30-27 victory was too generous for Guida and that Pettis did enough from his back to win a round or two, if not the fight.

    Pettis, though, isn't one of those believers.

    "I think I knew control-wise, he was on top, and he did a good job staying on top," he told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com). "I couldn't get my submissions off. I attempted a lot. I hit him a lot. I just understand how the game works. If he controls you, you lose the round. I didn't do enough to get up off my back, so big up to Clay."

    For Pettis, a 24-year-old who turned pro just four years ago, worse things can happen than a loss to Guida, who's now four straight to enter serious title contention. After all, before the setback, Pettis posted a series of victories over the elite of the WEC's former 155-pound class: Danny Castillo, Alex Karalexis, Shane Roller and Ben Henderson.
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    I guess no one will see it as impressive that Clay was able to get all those takedowns without eating any nasty knees from a striker like Pettis...

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    Pettis needs to work on knees and uppercuts. Guida did what he needed to but 30-27 was ridiculous but then the whole basing your judging system on boxing is as well so.....

    I was most disappointed to read in several "articles" the phrase "dominated on top" or some such bullshit.

    Transitions were obviously the key. Despite the fact that Pettis knew he wanted to take him down, Clay was still able to do it by engaging enough to get a response striking wise from Pettis and get into his body before he could sprawl. Still don't think Clay gets the title shot. Either Miller or, if he loses, Melendez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayneFS View Post
    I guess no one will see it as impressive that Clay was able to get all those takedowns without eating any nasty knees from a striker like Pettis...
    Are they excited when Fitch does the same thing? Or Shields? Even Georges gets criticized for "just" working for position, and all of the fighters I've mentioned throw better strikes from the top than Clay.

    One of the things he's overlooking is that wrestling isn't going to win him a championship in the LW division. Both Frankie and Gray are better grapplers than he is, and have much, much better striking.


    I thought Pettis did well from the bottom for the most part, but I hated his clinch work against the cage. But he's a kid, and he's got nowhere to go but up. Guida controlled the fight and deserved the points, but Pettis was actually closer to actually finishing it, and more than once.

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    Even in loosing I thought Pettis had a good performance. I was more impressed with him then Guida. He almost got a few subs and is a very explosive fighter. I dont know why but I expected more from Guida. He has been looking better since joining Jackson but in this fight all he did was lay on top of Anothy. He really didnt land any good shots or do to much else.

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    Guida offered very little by way of offence from the top
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    "I think I knew control-wise, he was on top, and he did a good job staying on top," he told MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com). "I couldn't get my submissions off. I attempted a lot. I hit him a lot. I just understand how the game works. If he controls you, you lose the round. I didn't do enough to get up off my back, so big up to Clay."

    Translation- Clay won do to a flawed scoring system where if a fighter is on top then he is automatically winning regardless if he was the won who had to defend the majority of the time.

    And please enough of this Homer bullshit, just because you are fan of a particular fighter you should still watch and analyze with a clear mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dexter View Post
    Guida offered very little by way of offence from the top
    are you kidding me? those shoulder strikes were devastating!

    i was very dissappointed with how little damage Guida even attempted to put on Pettis. Its like all he was worried about was getting a UD not even thinking about finishing the fight...

    Jorgensen's k.o. is the kind GnP that i like and Roop's was nice too, not shoulder strikes.

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    wow, no credit for pettis having wrist control and an awesome guard from the bottom. not like clay wasn't trying to stay busy from the top.....pettis is just that good from the bottom. once the kid learns some take down d, he will be dope, and I thought he was very classy in defeat.

    props to guida for having a great game plan and taking the fight where he wanted with ease. i think pettis just made him look bad from top with his wrist control and great guard. not like guida goes into all his fights and lays on people

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    It's a cut throat business,so I don't blame Clay for doing what he has to do to win.I don't think these guys wrestle guys down and hold on for the win intentionally.I mean game plan wise I'm sure he PLANNED to punch more,to try for subs.Rather than knock Clay's wrestling,I'll commend Anthony's ability off his back,especially wrist control.

    I do agree the scoring is flawed,but I can see why the guy who scores the take down gets the point.I just think the guy on his back doing more work should get some credit too,especially considering it was the top guy's choice to go to the mat.

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