If not for Rorion Gracie, those guys you mentioned wouldn't be household names. If not for Rorion Gracie Zuffa wouldn't have known about the UFC. Like it or not, that's just the way it is but thanks for pointing out nothing.
You're right, if not for Rorion Gracie, which I had already pointed out, bud. Royce Gracie clearly over-shadows Rorion due to the fact that it was Royce whom ran through wannabe Karate Kids, Bar Brawlers, and African Bambatta(sp?), not Rorion, but it was Rorion's creation that paved the way for Royce. So without Rorion's creation, Royce would not be a household name, today. Also, Ken Shamrock would've still been an household name, don't kid yourself. And fyi, if not for Zuffa, Vince McMahon would be owning the rights to the UFC right about now. Believe that, friend.
Originally Posted by Joe Lauzon
"Guillard is like, 'Oh, Joe didn't beat me. I beat myself.'" "No, I smacked you in the face with my fist, and you went down and I choked you. I'm pretty sure i'm taking credit for that."
Originally Posted by King Mo
"It's funny how some fans wanna be PC and shit, but then some of these same muthafuckaz wanna pay to see some organized violence. LOL! Or they boo if a fight ain't violent enough. LOL!"