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    Cheick Kongo Turned Down Fight Against Roy Nelson at TUF 16 Finale

    One fighter who was offered the bout against Nelson, but turned it down was French born heavyweight Cheick Kongo.

    According to a Twitter message via UFC President Dana White, the call was made to Kongo to see if he would accept the bout against Nelson in December.

    “Kongo turned it down,” wrote White in response.

    Kongo last fought in July when he won a unanimous decision over Shawn Jordan in a largely lackluster bout. Kongo hasn’t commented about being offered the fight, but according to his Twitter account he’s currently at home in France.
    Cheick Kongo Turned Down Fight Against Roy Nelson at TUF 16 Finale | MMAWeekly.com

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    A lot of varible were not aware of, but turning down the fight with the info we have doesn't put Kongo in a good spot. Kongo's been around long enough that many casual fans know him. He looks like a great tough guy, but we've seen him fight to many times to know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    A lot of varible were not aware of, but turning down the fight with the info we have doesn't put Kongo in a good spot. Kongo's been around long enough that many casual fans know him. He looks like a great tough guy, but we've seen him fight to many times to know the difference.
    But I can't help wondering why we're told every time a fighter declines a fight.

    I'll never claim to understand dana's reasoning, but it does nothing to increase the brand or the sport for him to tattle on the phone every time someone does something he doesn't like.

    I mean, I'm not a Kongo fan by any means, but he'd have a month to get a visa to come back to the states to hopefully jam in a 2 week training camp to face someone who is ranked higher than he is and who isn't a good matchup for him. It would be nice if he took the fight, but I can't think of anyone who'd be surprised that he didn't. If anything, I'm surprised he was even offered the fight.



    But I don't understand why dana runs to twitter to give only one side of the story to a highly judgemental--and often stupid--fanbase. It doesn't hype the fight. It doesn't even make Meathead look good for taking the bout. It just negatively impacts a fighter's reputation. And a lot of times it's just misinformation: you get complaints about Shogun not stepping up to fight Jones on short notice--and dana conveniently forgets that Shogun was actually medically suspended when he was offered the bout.

    I dunno...it just seems stupid to me.

    Can anyone clue me into a good reason for it other than than the disproven "no publicity is bad publicity" myth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    It's not a myth my friend.
    Actually, If you study marketing it is a myth. If you're trying to break into a field, it works at first, but the individual or group is then faced with the task of either re-inventing themselves or one-upping themselves, and any momentum generated that way often quickly runs out of steam.

    The trick is to get on the map and then continue to refine the image so that you keep the public interest. This has been a problem for zuffa for the last three or four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Actually, If you study marketing it is a myth. If you're trying to break into a field, it works at first, but the individual or group is then faced with the task of either re-inventing themselves or one-upping themselves, and any momentum generated that way often quickly runs out of steam.

    The trick is to get on the map and then continue to refine the image so that you keep the public interest. This has been a problem for zuffa for the last three or four years.

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    In the case of business (in this case marketing) bad publicity is just that, bad publicity; and bad publicity is bad for business.

    I think the old saying "the only bad publicity is no publicity" refers to the entertainment industry, entertainers specifically.


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    They should be setting up Kongo vs. Reem, forget Bigfoot.

    I think Kongo did the smart thing, he would have lost to Roy for sure. That fight would have been Roy vs. Kimbo pt. 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    But I can't help wondering why we're told every time a fighter declines a fight.

    I'll never claim to understand dana's reasoning, but it does nothing to increase the brand or the sport for him to tattle on the phone every time someone does something he doesn't like.


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    So fans dont come to the forum complaing about why fighter X didnt get offered the fight over Fighter Y and that fighter X deserves the fight over fighter Y etc etc....Its sorta become the norm for the fans to complain that so and so should be have stepped up and took the fight. Example; Chael taking the fight vs Jones, We had threads on top of threads with people saying "Why wasnt rashad offered the fight? why not Shogun? why didnt Dana call so and so at least he has a win in the LHW division"

    Someone asked Dana why Congo didnt get the fight, he answered and said he turned it down its that simple.

    Dana does something as simple as answer a fans question and people need to nitpick at it

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