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    Itís a curious place for a fighter to be in the top 10, even top five, of a weight class, knowing heís nowhere close to getting a title shot. But when youíve been drubbed by an existing champ, or even lost to him twice, itís a tough proposition to ask for another crack at the crown.

    Even if you have the chops and resume to make you an odds-on favorite against most of the rest of the top 10.

    Years ago I dubbed this curious position as "Rich Franklin Territory." After Franklin had been demolished twice by Anderson Silva, he remained a top five fighter at middleweight, but had no hope whatsoever of getting a title shot. Henceforth, necessity became the mother of invention, and "Ace" found a career niche in shuttling between 185 and 205 pounds as a kind of reliable commodity the UFC could use when it needed a name guy to check off a box on a card.

    However, when youíre unable to do that, being eminently dull to the casual fan, to say nothing of at odds with the UFC in a general sense, itís a tough position. Stuck in a weight class where youíre probably good enough to beat most of the top guys is exactly where Yushin Okami is. And after Saturday nightís steamrolling of Alan Belcher (for the second time, no less), Okamiís decision win was equal parts one-sided and boring.

    Itís not that the guy isnít talented. Itís just that when he loses, such as against Silva or when hopelessly behind Tim Boetsch landed a miracle finishing barrage to rescue victory from the jaws of defeat Ė Okami is just a lot more exciting to watch.

    Heís pretty much the middleweight version of what Jon Fitch used to be. Until Fitch resurrected his prospects with a thrilling, gut-check win over uber-talented Erick Silva. As a reward, Fitch got Demian Maia, which is no accident, because Maiaís ground-savvy style is the exact kind of match-up that could defuse Fitchís own ground-based approach.

    It will probably be a lot more exciting than most of Fitchís fights.

    Iím not sure where Okamiís equivalent is Ė perhaps a head-cracker like Hector Lombard, or Lombardís latest victim, the leg lock specialist Rousimar Palhares. Itís hard to imagine anyone holding Palhares down for long without some sort of exciting developments, given his penchant for finding leg-lock attempts even while heís getting bashed into the mat, so maybe the UFC can roll the dice there and give Okami the chance to generate excitement.

    The tough thing about being Okami Ė or Fitch Ė is that the relative upside of their win compared to someone beating them is grossly disproportional. Take Johny Hendricks, for example. He wasnít really in the title shot conversation until he blitzed out Fitch. Besting the former title challenger showed Hendricks could succeed at a new level.

    The same could have been said for Chael Sonnen, whose brilliant, smash-mouth decision win over Okami teed him up for a title-eliminator showdown against Nate Marquardt. Beating the likes of an Okami or Fitch does a lot more for most opponents then theyíll do in losing to either guy.

    Begrudgingly, over a long enough timeline, even a Fitch Ė who in my opinion is 10 times more exciting than Okami Ė will get an opening in the title queue. His recent victories over Silva, and B.J. Penn, were masterpieces of hard-nosed grappling, intensity, and dramatic displays of resilience where he closed both bouts with big-time third round onslaughts.

    Okami seems content to ride out fights, occasionally nipping from top position to strike and maintaining his advantages. And given the dreary showings of the other five middleweights on the UFC 155 card, Iím not sure than any of them would be favored against him.

    In a perverse way, Iíd love to see him in against a Palhares, or even Vitor Belfort if "The Phenom" loses next month against Michael Bisping. Everyone deserves the right to be exciting in victory, and for Okami, thatís probably the only way heís going to get a crack at the title as long as Silva is champion.

    Belfort would be a particularly intriguing matchup, given his record of early-rounds explosions (heís won all of his UFC bouts inside of five minutes, and never won a fight that went beyond that) and great takedown defense.

    Itís doubtful the UFC would risk contender Chris Weidman against Okami at this point, either.

    For while the "All American" would surely be favored, the downside is that Weidman loses, itís a fight thatís not terribly exciting. Fitch had Penn and Silva to turn his career trajectory around, and in a way the loss to Hendricks probably opened up some managerís eyes, who mistakenly saw him as a fighter in decline, instead of a guy with a dinged-up shoulder who probably shouldnít have been fighting.

    Saturday night probably reminded many of them why Okami is a rough assignment and one theyíd rather steer clear of.
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    Okami has ALWAYS been more boring than fitch imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Okami has ALWAYS been more boring than fitch imo.
    Okami's boxing is really good though, I like seeing him pick guys apart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Okami has ALWAYS been more boring than fitch imo.
    Don't really agree.. At least Okami has finished someone recently. Fitch's last win that wasn't a decision was in 07'. Thunder will stand and bang every once in awhile even tho it may not go his way.. You have to practically force Fitch to stand and stuff his TD's to get him from humping you all fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Okami has ALWAYS been more boring than fitch imo.
    Yup. Fitch at least strives for position than attempts subs or finishes rather than purely holding position above all else.

    Didn't like this showing for Okami. Had higher expectations for the matchup and I'm feeling bitter.

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    It wasnt the greatest Okami performance, but it was executed very well.

    Let's not forget Belcher is a great striker. He caught Okami a few times. But that's all he did during the time they stood up. He didnt come forward, or pressure Okami with combinations. He mostly stood in front of Okami, and allowed Okami to close the distance between them by rushing forward with strikes and into the clinch against the cage. Had Okami stood with Belcher, sooner or later Belcher would have caught him and lights out for Okami.

    I dont find Okami to be boring. People are forgetting that he stood with Mark Munoz and landed some good knockdown punches on him. He made Munoz's wrestling look god awful. He shutdown Nate Marquardt to the point where Nate was backing away against the cage.

    Okami has got solid striking with a strong clinch game. Guys like Palhares who rely on their BJJ would have a hard time getting Okami to the ground and subbing him. I have Okami winning by keeping the fight standing and picking apart Palhares.

    Strong wrestlers with powerful double leg would be his weakness. I think Weidman would have a strong chance of beating him.

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    Let's start here:

    It’s a curious place for a fighter to be in the top 10, even top five, of a weight class, knowing he’s nowhere close to getting a title shot. But when you’ve been drubbed by an existing champ, or even lost to him twice, it’s a tough proposition to ask for another crack at the crown.
    Okami lost to Boetsch, was getting picked apart by Buddy Roberts, and Belcher (as much as I love him) pulled guard for the sub in all three rounds, which was a terrible idea and a giveaway to Okami. He's good. But he's not being snubbed for the title shot; this is just a silly premise for an article.

    I think I refuse to acknowledge anything else the article says after that nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Okami has ALWAYS been more boring than fitch imo.
    Agreed. Fitch tries to advance position much more than Okami and he also does it with a certain ferver that adds excitement for me.

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    Didn't like this showing for Okami. Had higher expectations for the matchup and I'm feeling bitter.
    Pains me to say it but Belcher was a big part of the equation. I think he wanted to prove something like he did with Toquino and it backfired big...

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    theyare pretty similiar, one they are generally boring to watch with a few exceptions, and two to the average fan they are generally way underrated in terms of skill, okami could brighten things up with his boxing and fitch with his sub skills but they rarely focus on being exciting it usually a strategy of give all of yourself to neutralizing literally everything
    its too bad rich got KOed because i think okami would win a rematch and could have done so for a while now, doesnt okami have a judo background why doesnt he throw like the heat used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnchorPunch View Post
    Pains me to say it but Belcher was a big part of the equation. I think he wanted to prove something like he did with Toquino and it backfired big...
    Precisely what I was thinking. It annoyed me because Belcher played against his strengths. He beat himself.

    If anyone should be lamenting a bad strategy it is not JDS, it should be Belcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodtimes View Post
    Okami's boxing is really good though, I like seeing him pick guys apart.
    Agree...

    Weidman should fight someone like Okami to prove his worth imo...

    Munoz is overrated imo, and his fight with Okami was not as close as some make it seem...

    Okami has the wrestling and striking to be a true test...

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