Whatcha gonna do Brother, when the New World Order destroys you?
The exception being Rockhold of course - I'd argue his wins over Maia and Munoz trump wins over Jacare and Kennedy but that's subjective. We won't really know until the latter compete against some top ten UFC competition.
@ Mr. Cornute,
How many of these WEC Champs got an immediate Title Fight when they came over after WEC was absorbed? I don't think your comparison of these 'situations' hold any water because, as I stated above, it is actually a completely different situation. The only similarity with this is that they were absorbed by the UFC. You can't necessarily dismiss the organization known as Pride, its fan-base, and what it stood for within that fan-base to compare these situations. Pride gave its fighters a heck of a lot more exposure/hype, even after its death, because of its legacy. This is what the UFC feeds off of to further hype and sell their fights. Strikeforce didn't come close to giving it's fighters this kind of exposure, even during its prime. So they can't be compared.
Some people are clearly fans of revisionist history. I am not amongst them.
P.S. Tell me you had a problem with the title unification bout between Henderson/Rampage. You likely won't because of Henderon's popularity amongst hardcore fans.
Last edited by roaddawg; 01-29-2013 at 04:17 AM.
Best Fighter on the planet.
I'm pretty sure rockhold has gone on record saying he wasn't ready for Anderson. While I believe weidman is the clear no 1 contender I think it would be in his best interest to have one more fight before Anderson. Did anyone else notice him in baders corner? He looked very.......doughy
As far as history, you're the one ignoring the fact that the vast majority of champs from other orgs didn't get the shot. WEC, Bellator, SF, it's been the same story every time. As S=E has said many times, Rockhold isn't a champ. His org is gone.
I'm fine with Rockhold getting the shot (largely because I think anyone, like Weidman, coming off a long injury needs to have one fight before title talks), but to say others on the forum are ignoring history on this matter is hilariously naive; you're clearly throwing out a huge amount of history yourself. And we've covered that, repeatedly.
You'd be crazy to think that Volkov would get the shot against Cain if he got signed, or M'Pumbu against Jones if he got signed. Askren, Chandler, and Curran actually have rankings to actually claim a shot.
Rockhold is an interesting position though. He would've definitely not gotten the title shot based on his ranking. However, a lot of contenders above him just got knocked off with a loss (including Bisping, Boetsch, Munoz), Vitor already lost to Anderson and Weidman is still injured. If Rockhold got the shot, he was just in the right place at the right time.
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