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    Default Should rounds be longer/shorter?

    Earlier this week I posted a thread asking the board whether or not knees should be banned on the ground in WMMA fights. An article in this month's Fighter's Only got me thinking about changes to the rules that could take place as MMA continues to grow.

    These rule changes might come about in the interests of improving/maintaining fighter safety, rectifying any ill-conceived rules that might favour one style over another, or to keep the sport from stagnation. Either way, I see it as inevitable that rules will be tweaked and changed over the next few years.

    So... to go to the point. The article I mentioned above was about whether or not the length (and number) of rounds in MMA fights under the unified rules should be changed.

    A number of old school fighters (Don Frye, K.Shamrock) - and some new-school fighters too like Gunnar Nelson - stated that they preferred the 10min/5min/5min set-up of Pride, or the no-time limit days of the early UFC's.

    Others suggested having 3, 3-minute rounds, so that the 'feeling out' process would be bypassed, with fighters coming out aggressive to try and win each round.

    So I'll say it again: What does the board think? Should rounds be shorter, or longer? Should there be more of them, or less? What about main events and title fights?

    Personally, I'd like to see things stay the same for standard fights, but for main events (or maybe only 'official number one contender fights') and title fights I'd like to see a 10-minute opening round, followed by 4 rounds of 30-minutes. How many times have we seen awesome title fights that have ended just as the tides are turning (see Aldo/Hominick)?

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    FIXED:

    I've been an advocate 5 THREE-minute rounds for a long time in routine fights, and 9 THREE-minute rounds in a championship fight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I've been an advocate 5 five-minute rounds for a long time in routine fights, and 9 five-minute rounds in a championship fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    FIXED:

    I've been an advocate 5 THREE-minute rounds for a long time in routine fights, and 9 THREE-minute rounds in a championship fight.
    I've been a proponent of the 5 three-minute rounds as well in routine fights, but can't say the same about 9 three-minute rounds for championship fights. I've leaned more towards 7 three-minute rounds for championship fights even though it would be overall 4 minutes shorter than it is currently, which after a while I was okay with.

    The main advantage of shorter time and additional rounds is that it will improve the scoring. Currently, the scoring system is broken into three increments for non-title fights and five increments for title fights (and main events). Breaking the judging into shorter increments would hopefully allow for less primacy and recency bias.

    However, there are two disadvantages. First, a BJJ fighter is definitely at a disadvantage with shorter time, as the sport is based on patience and position before submission. That's very hard to do with shorter time.

    The second is that someone could absolutely massacred in one round, but each round is going to get weighted less (with additional rounds), so the domination will have less weight. That has less to do with additional rounds and more to do with the current point scoring system. An alternative scoring system of 10-9 (close rounds), 10-8 (clear winner), 10-7 (domination) would help those cases.

    My final suggestion would be 5 judges scoring the fights.

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    I like what the doctor has to say,

    Ive always felt more judges like 5 of em would be good especially for title fights. Of course if the athletic commissions could birth a rotation of 3 fully competent judges that be way better than 5 average judges.

    Shortening the rounds seems the wrong way to go unless the next round starts in the same exact position the other ended in. If you lengthen them then the refs need to be better trained to curb stalling and stagnant behavior. Plus the demand on fighters to train even harder would be too much. 5 minutes rounds are perfect if the ref and fighters (even the judges how ever many) are on top of their game.

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    I remember Roy Nelson in his infinite wisdom being an advocate for shorter rounds, but more of them.
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    I think the current situation is more than adequate...I'm not sure I would be in favor of switching to the PRIDE format, despite how much I enjoyed it at the time.

    No making the rounds shorter though, it would just take away from the ground game, and that's not okay in my books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    a 45 Min fight? I dont htink anyone right now has that kind of cardio.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badluck33 View Post
    holy FUCK.
    ugh. I fixed it.

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    That makes more sence RH
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