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    Default Cormier: Aside from Cain, Jones is the best

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...s-is-the-best/

    Daniel Cormier is set to make his UFC debut this weekend against former Champion Frank Mir. Although winner of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grandprix, Cormier has expressed interest in moving to the lightheavyweight division and perhaps a shot at the man he considers the best in MMA today:

    According to Cormier, UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones is the king of kings when it comes to MMA:

    "I think really Cain, but just so it's not like I'm picking my teammate, I think the best guy right now honestly is Jon Jones. He's the best right now, and he's gotten better because he's learned to fight with his length. Complement that with his cardio and physical gifts, and he's the best guy."
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    Very subjective but I will play.

    Anderson is 38ish and not getting younger. Anderson is the goat to me--but like everything else time catches up. The only real unstoppable force is time. That said Anderson will loose a step in every fight from here forward.

    Aldo, on the other hand, is still only 26, Cain is 30 and Jones is 25. These three are GREAT complete fighters.

    The future is bright as there will be guys that train MMA from a very young age.It will be very cool to see some of these future fighters, when they are 20 and already a complete fighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    It will be very cool to see some of these future fighters, when they are 20 and already a complete fighter
    Dude, every Friday at my BJJ gym the kids class is right before mine so I was always catch the end of their sparring. Some of these kids are landing difficult moves with solid technique, and a number of them train various striking arts too.

    By the time some of these kids are 25, they'll have over fifteen years of grappling and striking experience, plus the knowledge of which techniques and styles are most effective will have moved forward a great deal, too.

    There are going to be some absolute beasts out there that will inevitably make us look back at guys like Jones, Aldo, GSP and Anderson and see them as stand-outs from their time, but certainly not the greatest fighters that ever will exist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Dude, every Friday at my BJJ gym the kids class is right before mine so I was always catch the end of their sparring. Some of these kids are landing difficult moves with solid technique, and a number of them train various striking arts too.

    By the time some of these kids are 25, they'll have over fifteen years of grappling and striking experience, plus the knowledge of which techniques and styles are most effective will have moved forward a great deal, too.

    There are going to be some absolute beasts out there that will inevitably make us look back at guys like Jones, Aldo, GSP and Anderson and see them as stand-outs from their time, but certainly not the greatest fighters that ever will exist.
    Anderson Silva and Jose Aldo fought and trained at a young age as well... like many other mixed martial artists.
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    I think DanC was eluding to the inevitable progression/evolution of the sport and younger fighters.

    Like any sport, the younger generation has the ability to study today's greats and perfect their game based on what they see going on right now. There was a time when BJJ was practically unbeatable.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishX(aka bornbear) View Post
    Anderson Silva and Jose Aldo fought and trained at a young age as well... like many other mixed martial artists.
    Yeah for sure man, but my point is that the majority of guys that fight today come primarily from one background, and whether they've wrestled since they were 8, or grew up in a boxing family, they tend to come in with a propensity towards one style. The fighter of 15 years time will have been striking and grappling since their early years, and will probably train is several of each kind of art.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    Yeah for sure man, but my point is that the majority of guys that fight today come primarily from one background, and whether they've wrestled since they were 8, or grew up in a boxing family, they tend to come in with a propensity towards one style. The fighter of 15 years time will have been striking and grappling since their early years, and will probably train is several of each kind of art.
    Well I guess it's just that I've been hearing that about today's fighters for a while now as well. That everyone is now a true mixed martial artist rather than a specialist in one art.

    It's funny though when you think about that old Bruce Lee quote.
    “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”

    With all these new generation kids you talk about training a mix of styles maybe they will lack because of not becoming an expert at anything.
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    Jones is a monster but I just do not put him above Anderson Silva just yet although he is on his way to being there in the not too distant future.
    I would put Jones above Cain and above GSP though and I cannot really see any argument against that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Cornute View Post
    Jones is a monster but I just do not put him above Anderson Silva .......I cannot really see any argument against that.
    Well I couldn't rep you so I have to quote you with a "can't argue with that". Both Jones and Silva handle their opponents in dominant fashion and Silva just makes others look silly. I'm not sure who is going to knock them off their perch.

    Cain is a top fighter but he has much to do before being ranked above Jones & Silva.

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    I think DC is right here.

    Jones has run the gauntlet of what we all thought was the one of if not THE deepest division in MMA and absolutely destroyed legends of the sport on the way.

    Anderson is amazing and this is not a slight against him in any way. I just don't think MW has ever had the talent depth LHW has.
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