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    Roy Nelson in Favor of UFC Heavyweight Grand Prix Instead of Promotion Politics | Bleacher Report

    Nelson was a big fan of the Pride Grand Prix's when they ran from 2000 until the organization folded in 2007. He believes the tournament format took away any question about who truly was the best fighter at the time and allowed the true champion to be crowned.

    "Here's the thing about tournaments, the cream always rises to the top and it's a good reset button," Nelson told MMA's Great Debate Radio. "It's good to have March Madness and you've got the Cinderella story. It's what made Pride great with the Grand Prix. It wasn't just Pride. It was because Pride always had the Grand Prix. You waited for that whether it was heavyweight or middleweight or whatever.

    "The thing is everybody forgets the UFC was the originator of the tournament format. How did Royce Gracie win? Nobody would have picked Royce Gracie to win besides his parents who put the whole thing together. He still had to fight to take the politics out of their hands. He had to beat somebody to become champion."

    Nelson isn't the first fighter to express an opinion about how someone does or doesn't receive a title shot in the UFC. This year alone two fighters have been matched up in title fights despite coming off losses (Nick Diaz at UFC 158, Chael Sonnen at UFC 159).

    The benefit of the tournament, or in this case the Grand Prix, is that it takes away the politics of promotion and allows the best fighter left standing defined as the best in the world.

    Most recently Strikeforce attempted their own version of a heavyweight grand prix with eight of the best in the division matched up in one tournament. Unfortunately, in the midst of the grand prix, the promotion ended up being sold to Zuffa (parent company of the UFC), and top stars like Alistair Overeem were forced out of the tournament due to injury and eventually exited the organization altogether.

    Still, Nelson believes that if not for the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix current top-ranked fighter Daniel Cormier could still be searching for the best way to be noticed in the sport.

    "That's how Daniel Cormier got introduced and basically took a lot of the politics out of the game. At that point he rose to the top," Nelson said. "The Grand Prix's changed a lot of the politics and especially if you just did a real money format. Like at the end of the day there's a $10 million dollar prize or something stupid like that. People would tune into watch that just because it's a Grand Prix, it's a real Grand Prix."
    "It's definitely one of those things people would tune into watch," Nelson commented. "It's just because it's an epic tournament. You can't really do it with the 135-er's because you can't name eight guys. Heavyweight division you can. 170-pound division you could, maybe the 55-er's although I think they are all 45-er's now. It would definitely be something the fans would want to see. That's something myself I'd tune in."

    The likelihood of a UFC Heavyweight Grand Prix happening is probably slim, but Nelson would still love to see it because it removes anybody from saying a fighter didn't deserve a title shot. Winning the Grand Prix tournament defines what the best in MMA is all about.

    "The one thing with the tournament it's always a reset button," Nelson said. "It's always a rebuilding year, it's like football or baseball or any other sports league. In our sport sometimes people only go off of your one win or your one loss, but at the end of the day it still comes down to politics when it comes to fighting for that belt."
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    That is entirely dependent on the format. One Night GP's are far more exciting and less troublesome to promote, but they leave still leave questions about fighters who may have had an easier road to the championship. AO's K1 GP comes to mind as a classic example of this. Having a multi-night format is a better illustration, but is more difficult to promote as fighters get injured and other variables come into play. SF's horribly-derailed HW tourney is a great example of this.

    Personally, I like the one-night events, even if they need to be two-rounders in the US, but I don't think the Champion title is as credible as if it's a multi-night event. It's still great to be the best guy standing on that given night, but it doesn't necessarily make you the best fighter in that weight class.

    Regardless, dana isn't a fan of either format, so it's not going to happen.

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    This year alone two fighters have been matched up in title fights despite coming off losses (Nick Diaz at UFC 158, Chael Sonnen at UFC 159).
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    Only thing for sure is DW doesn't really care what Roy thinks.
    Fighting more than once a night won't work to much luck or game planning just to get through the night healthy. 2 rounder may get around the commissions for a little while.
    The UFC has enough events to run a touriment One thought the one with no losses gets a shot but doulbe elimiation for 2nd contender??

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    All one needs to remember is how fucked up the logistics of the Strikeforce tournament became.

    America wouldn't allow for a same night tournament lest it be thought of as a bloodsport again.

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    Pride 2005 MWGP is still the high point of MMA in my eyes. Bellator manages to put on a good tournaments on a regular basis. Just have a big enough prize for the winner that everybody will want in and nobody will drop out because of an injury unless its absolutely necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    Only thing for sure is DW doesn't really care what Roy thinks.
    Yup, and Roy knows this.. Hence why he is calling for a HW GP because Roy will never get a shot at a UFC belt any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher View Post
    Yup, and Roy knows this.. Hence why he is calling for a HW GP because Roy will never get a shot at a UFC belt any other way.
    Even in a GP format he would not be a champion in a hundred years.
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    I would enjoy seeing another tournament. Not in the heavy weight division though, I want to see the lhw's battle for the belt (or a shot at jones if not that.) I think there would be so many wars if it was held at lhw. If they all came hungry for the belt it would be glorious.



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    I am with initial zen. Lhw would be great start for a tourney. This is what they could have done if they had kept strikeforce open.

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