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    Nick Diaz's legal representative talks WAR MMA, UFC 158 weigh-in controversy and Diaz's retirement - MMA Fighting

    "The idea was to throw a show here locally, and the concept just grew and grew," Diaz's legal representative, Jonathan Tweedale, explained on Monday's edition of The MMA Hour. "Folks are interested anytime Nick is doing something, so this has become bigger than I think he originally envisioned ... in terms of the attention that's being put on it and as a response to that, the things that he wants to do."

    For Diaz, this was just a natural step -- an idea he played around with in his head, and chiefly, a way to give back to the community that propelled him to become one of the most popular fighters under the UFC umbrella.

    "The genesis in his thought," Tweedale explained, "was he was looking at a bunch of the guys around on the team and the in community that weren't on his team, and thinking about whether they had adequate opportunities to fight. The thought was that a new promotion would provide a much needed opportunity for a lot of these guys to advance their careers. So, in part, it's about giving back to the sport and to the folks around him that have helped him along the way, and, in part, it's a new project to build something for his own future."

    "If this was solely about dollars and cents then, yeah, he'd be out there whoring himself around to the media. But he wants the attention on the fighters and the promotion. It's a different model from the UFC's model where Dana White is biggest star that the UFC has. That's not how Nick is envisioning proceeding here."

    True to his word, Diaz has mostly remained out of the public eye since the project launched last month. WAR MMA's debut takes place June 22, 2013 at the Stockton Arena in California. The event is headlined by Diaz' teammate, former UFC fighter Daniel Roberts versus welterweight veteran Justin Baesman, and is expected to be streamed free on the promotion's website as well as any media outlet that wishes to embed it.

    According to Tweedale, Diaz has a team consisting of eight to ten people helping to set everything up, plus additional contractors. But every decision, no matter how small, runs through Diaz first.

    It's a strange turn of events for a fighter who seemed so adverse to the Dana White minutia-driven lifestyle that comes with being a fight promoter. Yet, in some ways, it's also inexplicably fitting. Take for example WAR MMA's modified ruleset, which utilizes a ring and disallows grounded elbows, two aspects for which Diaz has long advocated.

    "These guys can actually use their technique," said Tweedale, echoing his client's criticism of the Unified Rules. "It's not just a matter of if I can hold the other guy down for five minutes, three times, then I win. We've got to remember, MMA is supposed to simulate, in some way, a fight. In a real fight, you don't win a fight by holding someone down.

    "If you're making that distinction (three five-minute rounds), let's make some other distinctions so we actually ensure there's actually fighting here, not just holding. Holding is a foul in pretty much any other sport."

    Tweedale refused to disclose whether Diaz is funding 100-perfect of WAR MMA's bill by himself, but he did acknowledge that at least of certain percentage of Diaz's own money is staked in the endeavor. Tweedale also ruled out the possibility of his client fighting under his own organization's banner, noting that early retirement doesn't exactly terminate Diaz's contract obligations with the UFC.

    Nonetheless, it's clear that Diaz is looking firmly ahead toward the future instead of brooding about his previous public narrative -- the UFC 158 weigh-in controversy that dominated headlines and cast Quebec's athletic commission, the Régie des alcools des courses et des jeux, in a dubious light.

    "As far as Nick's concerned, it's over, and it's up to the fans, the followers of the sport and the UFC to look at what happened on the basis of what's already being disclosed, and to determine whether they want to pressure the Régie to change their procedures. This was never about trying to obtain some kind of win or advantage for Nick," Tweedale explained, regarding the commission's last-second disclosure to discount decimals when weighing fighters for a title bout.

    "The steps that we took after that fight, in fact before that fight in the case of the video, all of that was successful in shedding light on what happened. The fans that checked out what was made publicly available can draw their own conclusions. Nick went above and beyond the call of duty in shedding light on what happened. This was never about sour grapes. This was never about trying to say that this effected the outcome, but in his view and my view, the job was done successfully of showing the fans what happened."

    Tweedale reiterated that thus far Diaz seems contented in his retirement, even if other fighters may not believe him. From Demian Maia to Tyron Woodley, there's been no shortage of welterweight contenders attempting to coax the 29-year-old back into the cage. Those calls, however, have been met largely by silence.

    "Of course these guys want to fight him," Tweedale remarked. "Anyone would want to fight a legendary figure in the sport. The problem is, for them, he's retired, and unless there's a very good reason to step out of retirement, I don't see that changing."

    What that very good reason is, remains to be seen. For what it's worth, Diaz's position, however farfetched, has remained consistent. He wants either a rematch against UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre or a title fight against UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

    All the same, even Tweedale can't say for sure if Diaz's retirement will forever hinge on those two unlikely goals.

    "That depends on two things," Tweedale said in closing. "It depends on whether the fans really want to see him in a really interesting match-up, and it depends whether Nick is willing to come out of retirement and bring the fans a really, really big match.

    "It's just difficult to imagine anything not involving one of those two fighters, at this point in time, that would be sufficient. But you're right, maybe in three years the landscape has totally changed. Anderson is long retired, GSP is retired, there's a new welterweight champ that's held the belt for a couple years. Who knows? You can never predict the future. But as of now, he's retired, and I don't see that changing anytime in the imminent future."
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    So are there different rules and regulations for this? I would actually watch it if we had kick and knees to downed opponents.

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    It was fun to listen to him speak on the MMA Hour and glad to see it's been written about quickly. I'm curious to see if Nick has any actual duties or is only a name attached to the project.


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    It's a strange turn of events for a fighter who seemed so adverse to the Dana White minutia-driven lifestyle that comes with being a fight promoter. Yet, in some ways, it's also inexplicably fitting. Take for example WAR MMA's modified ruleset, which utilizes a ring and disallows grounded elbows, two aspects for which Diaz has long advocated.

    "These guys can actually use their technique," said Tweedale, echoing his client's criticism of the Unified Rules. "It's not just a matter of if I can hold the other guy down for five minutes, three times, then I win. We've got to remember, MMA is supposed to simulate, in some way, a fight. In a real fight, you don't win a fight by holding someone down.
    Elbows are thrown in real fights. Nice logic.

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    War MMA Aims to Become the Sport as Nick Diaz Envisions It
    Ahead of the debut event, Diaz’s attorney Jonathan Tweedale joined the Sherdog Radio Network’s “Beatdown” show to discuss rule changes, goals and more.

    Tweedale on War MMA’s rules: “In the first event, what Nick’s trying to do is introduce some rule changes -- relative to the rules that many of the fans may be familiar with already -- to try to push the action a little more towards the sport as Nick envisions it. That, first of all, is in a ring versus a cage, not simply because of the dehumanizing element that some fighters have talked about, fighting in a cage, but combat sports have always happened in a ring whether we’re talking boxing, kickboxing. When did we use a cage? It’s only a subset of pro wrestling that uses a cage. Removing the cage, moving to the ring changes things in terms of takedowns, changes things in terms of how you can get up. That’s the first change.

    “Removing elbows on the ground is a big deal too because that is going to require fighters, if you’re on top, you can’t just be rubbing your elbows into the guy’s face on bottom. … You’re going to have to create space, try to punch down, and that space is exactly the space the guy on bottom needs to either try to get up or work his submission game. Alternatively, the guy on top is going to need to advance his position. We’re going to expect some more action and more fighting. Those are two shifts aimed at moving the fights more towards the sort of Japanese MMA that better represents the kind of fighting that Nick wants to see in MMA.”

    On other possible changes: “There are other changes as well contemplated for the future, for future events, but because this is a regulated sport here in North America, which is a good thing, any rule changes have to happen under the guidance and approval of the athletic commission. Here the changes are going to be incremental. If we have a successful event under these rules, then we can dialogue with the athletic commission about allowing maybe some other changes like, for instance, yellow cards. Probably we’re some time away from knees to the head of a grounded opponent, but there are other changes as well that need to be made.”

    On making changes without actually changing rules: “There are other changes that don’t even involve a change to the rules but just involve a shift in the application of the rule. For instance, under the Unified Rules, timidity is already a foul. How often have you seen a point deduction or a warning for a guy holding his opponent on the ground and not trying to advance his position, not creating space to try to punch down? You never see it.”

    On Diaz’s involvement with the promotion: “Any decision of any consequence is made by Nick, run by Nick and made by Nick. Nick has attended and participated in numerous meetings -- business meetings, meetings with the arena, meetings with sponsors, et cetera. He’s very engaged and involved in this process. He’s not out there in the media sort of hyping this, but he’s busy working on it.”

    On whether Diaz will play Dana White’s role at the weigh-ins, stepping in between fighters: “We’ll see. We’ll see. That’s yet to be determined.”

    On promoting shows in Northern California: “There are world-class gyms all over the area and there aren’t, in Nick’s view, enough promotions for these fighters or for the fans. He’s looking to fill that void, which is really going to serve the interest of a lot of up-and-coming fighters and established fighters, as you can see by the lineup for Saturday night.”

    On the contracts they’re using with fighters: “It would be counterproductive to try to lock guys up, especially with some of the names we’re looking to get on this card. We’re trying to help them elevate to the next level in their careers. We’re not looking to pin them down in what is for now a regional show. That said, we are signing fighters under a development contract -- guys that are anywhere from debuting pros to guys who’ve had a couple of fights, so that we can kind of help them along in their careers. It’s very different from the UFC or Bellator models where they’re tying up talent and looking to develop and own these fighters that they advertise and market. This is more fighter-centered, trying to serve the interest of the fighters rather than serving the interest of the company.”
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