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Thread: UFC 162: Silva vs Weidman: Live Results & Discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    I give Okami a better shot against Weidman than Jacare. To me, Jacare loses his confidence and has trouble against guys with good grappling or guys who can change levels (kennedy, Rockhold). Weidman, between his wrestling, sub attempts, and very good striking, would be too much for Jacare.

    Okami would be strong in the clinch and his training with Sonnen and Lindland seems to be paying dividends as shown in the Lombard fight, with the wrestling takedowns that he's learned. He's got a great stiff jab, good movement, leg kicks which can keep Weidman guessing. Okami's biggest weakness is pressure fighters, so as long as he can keep Weidman from pressuring him, the fight would be interesting.

    I can see a reason for Vitor getting the shot, but does anyone think he will accept a fight outside of Brazil at this point?
    For me, I think Okami has such a neutralizing approach, he could very well beat Jacare and make a helluva case for a shot, however given his relatively dull and "boring" style and how long it took him to get a title shot the first time around despite his cred, I wonder if they don't pass him over for a more sexy and engaging fighter.

    Also, I'd hazard that Jacare's striking has improved leaps and bounds from when he fought either Kennedy or Rockhold and going forward with a potential win over Okami, he's got alot of tools to again, be a great contender.

    Let's all not forget about Consta, who with one more fight himself has probably made a solid enough argument for a shot despite not having the most household of household names......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    While I agree that Bisping isn't DESERVING of a title shot, marketing-wise it might be the best thing for Weidman to get another big name under his belt and the exposure that comes with a Bisping bout.

    However, with a win over Jacare(I have it even as of now), Okami will have amassed consecutive wins over Belcher, Lombard and Jacare, which IMO is a better argument than anybody but Vitor
    but he was also crushed by Silva and Tim Boetsch, but I don't think he gets passed Jacare.

    You can't give Bisping a title shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_Dog View Post
    if Silva, Belfort were to die in a plane crash I think Munoz would be considered a contender by the UFC
    It's funny I can see the words but I can't make them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    For me, I think Okami has such a neutralizing approach, he could very well beat Jacare and make a helluva case for a shot, however given his relatively dull and "boring" style and how long it took him to get a title shot the first time around despite his cred, I wonder if they don't pass him over for a more sexy and engaging fighter.

    Also, I'd hazard that Jacare's striking has improved leaps and bounds from when he fought either Kennedy or Rockhold and going forward with a potential win over Okami, he's got alot of tools to again, be a great contender.

    Let's all not forget about Consta, who with one more fight himself has probably made a solid enough argument for a shot despite not having the most household of household names......
    Okami's style is def not fan friendly, but I do enjoy it. He's very technical, and is a true martial artist in his own way. He's the Fitch of the MW division, except that he's Japanese, which would be a great sell for a Japanese card, or any Asian card. The UFC has him ranked at #3, behind the champ Weidman, Silva, and Vitor. Beating Jacare only makes his case better. Would not make sense for the UFC to pass on their #3 ranked MW for say Bisping, who is a few spots lower, and only on a 1 fight streak, 2 should he win his next one.

    Jacare has improved tremendously, but again, fighting the Ed Hermans of the world isnt fighting the Okami, Vitor, Munoz, Bisping of the MW division. Camozzi wasnt a test. Costa would have been, but injuries are not gonna help his case if he's out a long time.

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    come one man don't feed the troll. hes just spitting shit to get a response.
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    WILLIAM MUNNY i hope you die of gonorrhea and burn in hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    come one man don't feed the troll. hes just spitting shit to get a response.
    Jesus Christ that was brilliant. Did you just make that up or did you take that from someone els?

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    I recognize like 5 people in this thread. Holy shit.
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    Hi Sak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjastix View Post
    Hhahahahahahahahahahaha
    This guy?

    Seems like you pop in randomly every 2 years. Stick around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Palma View Post
    Jesus Christ that was brilliant. Did you just make that up or did you take that from someone els?
    You should also stick around.

    As for the fights: Holy fuck. It was a pretty damn good night of fights...craziest shit ever in the main event. I think a rematch could potentially be amazing.
    Last edited by dbader08; 07-07-2013 at 11:25 AM.

    I hope this isn't too big, because it's awesome.

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