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    Default 'King Mo' calls Semmy Schilt the greatest all-around fighter of all time

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    Bellator light heavyweight Muhammed Lawal considers it fun to research fighters on BoxRec and Wikipedia in his spare time. He's still a student of the game as much as he is a fighter.

    Recently, "King Mo" was contemplating the best all-around combatant, as a fight obsessive might do. And he talked to others about it, in the same way that others like him would.

    After a short fact-finding mission, Lawal believes the reportedly retired Semmy Schilt deserves that recognition.

    Of course, the idea didn't come from nowhere. One of Schilt's trainer for the famed Golden Glory team asked him to consider what many observers would call an unlikely candidate, as the 6-foot-11 giant never won a title in either the UFC or PRIDE.

    Lawal, though, said Schilt's height isn't the only thing that puts him head and shoulders above others.

    "I'm just saying as far as versatility," Lawal told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "You don't see many guys that can go ... and be versatile. He won by decision, submission and TKO as a mixed martial artist, and then went to K-1 dominating the greats as a kickboxer."

    Indeed, Schilt's time in combat sports was marked by careers in MMA and kickboxing, where he earned his biggest accolades. He won the K-1 World Grand Prix on four occasions – tying the record of all-time great Ernesto Hoost – and beat some of the sport's biggest names.

    As an MMA fighter, he was far more fallible, losing to top-ranked talent such as Josh Barnett, Fedor Emelianenko, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Sergei Kharitonov in his later career under the now-defunct PRIDE banner. But before that, he did manage to win the open-weight King of Pancrase title and defend it on two occasions.

    In the UFC, he was a modest 1-1 with a TKO over Pete Williams and a submission loss to Barnett.

    "He fought in the UFC; he was a good submission fighter," said Lawal (10-2 MMA, 2-1 BFC), who's next scheduled to meet Jacob Noe (12-2 MMA, 3-1 BFC) at Bellator 97 next week at Santa Ana Center in Albuquerque, N.M., in the finals of the Summer Series light-heavy tournament. The fight will air on the main card on Spike TV.

    "He fought in PRIDE, fought in GLORY. Name me anybody else that's done what he's done so far in all-around fighting? You could say (Alistair) Overeem, maybe, but at the same time, Semmy Schilt has been doing it for so long."

    Overeem, who was a longtime teammate of Schilt's before leaving Golden Glory, was a champion in Strikeforce, DREAM and K-1, where he won the promotion's grand-prix in 2010.

    However, Schilt's reign in kickboxing was far longer, and more illustrious.
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    KB does not =/= all-around fighting in my opinion.

    King Mo must have trained with him sometime. Hah.

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    I'm sure Mo had a point he was trying to make and maybe it made sense to him at some point. However, I believe most folks have no idea what he was trying to say.
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    He left out the main fact, that Shilt was a multiple time Pancrase Champion.

    His arguement does hold some weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    I'm sure Mo had a point he was trying to make and maybe it made sense to him at some point. However, I believe most folks have no idea what he was trying to say.
    I think that King Mo was honoring Semmy due to his recent retirement and medical problems.

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    The only mma fight I have seen Semmy in was against Fedor. Anyways what medical problems did he have or were they never disclosed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    The only mma fight I have seen Semmy in was against Fedor. Anyways what medical problems did he have or were they never disclosed?
    A heart condition was detected last month which caused him to announce his retirement. Never was disclosed what type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    I think that King Mo was honoring Semmy due to his recent retirement and medical problems.
    I ruled that out as I've never heard mo honor anyone but himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    I ruled that out as I've never heard mo honor anyone but himself.
    Since it was on a radio show the topic probably was brought up.

    Mo definitely shows little humility, but I don't doubt that he can be a respectful person every once and a while.

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    Schilt is someone who really knew how to use his huge size and reach, he was a very big kickboxer and obviously he had skills.
    He also happened to have a decent submission game.

    But to say that he is the greatest??? Hell no, not even close.
    His career in PRIDE is remembered specially by the epic beating that Kharitonov put on him, he had some wins against unknown japanese dudes but against elite fighters he lost.
    He had a decent career in MMA, but it is not that he had a career that will be remembered for the decades.

    As for kickboxing, he is a legend without a doubt, But IMO his size played a very huge factor, because there is more than one fighter who technically is much better.

    I am not saying that he sucks or anything, he is a monster and a fighting machine, a K-1 Legend, but King Mo is really overrating him.
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