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  1. Default Dana White (again) defends flyweight division after UFC on FOX 8

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    SEATTLE – For Dana White, dealing with the lighter weight classes, in particular the flyweight division, seems like a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't proposition.

    If the UFC puts the 125-pound weight class on display in the main event, as it did Saturday night with UFC on FOX 8, the promotion's president often is met with questions of why he thinks the flyweights can attract enough attention to carry a card.

    But do something like make them the co-main event on a pay-per-view just below a Jon Jones title fight, as was the case at UFC 152 this past September, and he hears about that, too. Why doesn't he think the flyweights are good enough to headline a big card?

    In the buildup to UFC on FOX 8, which took place at KeyArena in Seattle, flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson (18-2-1 MMA, 6-1-1 UFC) and challenger John Moraga (12-2 MMA, 2-1 UFC) got plenty of attention. But the co-main event between welterweights Rory MacDonald and Jake Ellenberger might have stolen the show leading up to the card.

    That certainly wasn't the case come fight time. MacDonald beat Ellenberger in a lackluster co-feature that had most of the 7,000-plus fans at KeyArena booing the perceived lack of activity. But Johnson and Moraga put on an exciting fight that, while dominated by Johnson, had just enough moments of challenge from Moraga to keep things interesting – and that Johnson submitted his opponent with an armbar with just 1:17 left in the five-round fight put a needed cap on the second half of the main card.

    And still, White hears the criticism about the flyweights, and about Johnson not being a finisher, a criticism he put to rest on Saturday with his first finish in the UFC after seven straight decisions.

    White heard the critics after Johnson's most recent headlining effort before Saturday, as well – a "Fight of the Night" winner at UFC on FOX 6 in Chicago in January. (His win Saturday netted him another bonus for "Submission of the Night.")

    "Let me tell you what, if you were talking smack – it's like the Dodson fight. If you didn't like that fight, you're not a fight fan," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) following Saturday's post-event news conference. "If you don't like the lighter-weight guys, who gives a s--t? Don't watch 'em. I don't know what to tell you. If you don't like what you saw tonight in the main event, you're not a fight fan. 'Oh, they're small and I don't like 'em.' OK."
    And such situations typically get White riled up enough that he has no will power to not fire back at the fans who levy the most complaints at the UFC putting the 125-pounders on display.

    "I mean, what do you say to something like that?" White said. "Listen, we've all got to listen to stupid s--t on the Internet and Twitter and everywhere else. You can't fall into the stupidness. If you don't like that fight, you're just not a fan of fighting. Don't watch. I don't watch you to watch. They love when I tell them that – that I don't want them to watch. 'F--- you, don't watch it' – yeah, they love that."
    Instead, likely a good share of the same critics of the lighter weight classes were wishing the MacDonald-Ellenberger fight was the main event instead of Johnson-Moraga. And instead of that being the potential barnburner it was billed to be, it was greatly overshadowed by the little guys.

    And White acknowledged that after the co-main event, Johnson's performance very well might have saved the main card, or at least kept fans from leaving with a bad taste in their mouth.

    "I don't really think about it that way – it's not like I have high hopes," White said of Johnson. "The kid's one of the best in the world. He puts on an amazing performance. That (MacDonald-Ellenberger) fight sucked so bad, and it was a fight that had so much heat on it. It was a very important fight."
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    i dont like flyweight division. it is weird to watch and there is no depth in the division at all. a guy with john moraga's skill anr esume would probably not even be facing a top ten guy in another weight

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    Well I believe Dana just said, "Fuck you don't watch it."..
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    Huh... guess I'm not a fight fan, and judging by the ratings seems like there are a whole lot of others who are not fight fans.
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    You know what, I've criticized the division before but that was a hell of a fight last night. Maybe over time, there will be more depth to the division and there will be more exciting fights to be had.

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    The whole "If you do not like this fight, then you are not a fight fan" is an extremely moronic argument.
    For obvious reasons people get much more excited watching two big guys fighting rather than watching 2 guys that weigh 50 kilos or something like that.

    What is going to be next? The anorexic division?? Well maybe guys there are going to move even faster than the flyweighs, and what then? Because they move fast it automatically means that they are extremely exciting???

    Sooner or later he will have to scrap that division, because no matter how much he will try to convince everyone that the Flyweighs are so great and exciting, people will never like watching 2 tiny men fight eachother.

    The only way that people may become interested in that division, is some fighter with a very attractive personality or an entertaining background.
    Maybe bring some pornstar, or some street brawler and build him as "a little guy that beats the fuck out of 200 pounders".
    Then maybe, just maybe, people may become interested in this division. Otherwise no one will give a fuck about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    The whole "If you do not like this fight, then you are not a fight fan" is an extremely moronic argument.
    For obvious reasons people get much more excited watching two big guys fighting rather than watching 2 guys that weigh 50 kilos or something like that.

    What is going to be next? The anorexic division?? Well maybe guys there are going to move even faster than the flyweighs, and what then? Because they move fast it automatically means that they are extremely exciting???

    Sooner or later he will have to scrap that division, because no matter how much he will try to convince everyone that the Flyweighs are so great and exciting, people will never like watching 2 tiny men fight eachother.

    The only way that people may become interested in that division, is some fighter with a very attractive personality or an entertaining background.
    Maybe bring some pornstar, or some street brawler and build him as "a little guy that beats the fuck out of 200 pounders".
    Then maybe, just maybe, people may become interested in this division. Otherwise no one will give a fuck about it.
    i agree with you 100% dana thinks that he can declare what people liek and dont then when he is wrong makes the people who dont liek whatever he is talking about out to be morons who know nothing. He acts as if people who disagree with him are in the minority to try and sway casuals his way but the ppv and tv ratings show otherwise.

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    To each their own but I think it's a bit ignorant to not watch the flyweight fights simply because the fighters are small. If that is your reasoning than all I can really say is that it's your loss as it's been a fun division to watch so far. It wasn't that long ago when people had the same argumentstowards 155 and it didn't take long for lightweight to become the deepest, most exciting division in the sport. Flyweight needs a bit more time to develop and get established but in the meantime there's plenty to enjoy about the full-throttle nature of the top guys in the division. With all the TV time they have, there's room for the lower weight classes to be showcased. I know I'd rather watch a top flyweight fight than two heavyweights outside of the top ten that'll just end up gassing after the first round.

    And to say that lighter weight classes can't draw is simply untrue. Just look at the two biggest draws in recent history in boxing to see that. While the UFC is establishing the lighter weight divisions those respective championships make for perfect pay-per-view co-main events and Fox main events.

    With all that said, the UFC didn't do themselves any favours by burying John Moraga on Facebook prelims before promoting him to a main event and expect people to give a shit about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travtera View Post
    To each their own but I think it's a bit ignorant to not watch the flyweight fights simply because the fighters are small. If that is your reasoning than all I can really say is that it's your loss as it's been a fun division to watch so far. It wasn't that long ago when people had the same argumentstowards 155 and it didn't take long for lightweight to become the deepest, most exciting division in the sport. Flyweight needs a bit more time to develop and get established but in the meantime there's plenty to enjoy about the full-throttle nature of the top guys in the division. With all the TV time they have, there's room for the lower weight classes to be showcased. I know I'd rather watch a top flyweight fight than two heavyweights outside of the top ten that'll just end up gassing after the first round.

    And to say that lighter weight classes can't draw is simply untrue. Just look at the two biggest draws in recent history in boxing to see that. While the UFC is establishing the lighter weight divisions those respective championships make for perfect pay-per-view co-main events and Fox main events.

    With all that said, the UFC didn't do themselves any favours by burying John Moraga on Facebook prelims before promoting him to a main event and expect people to give a shit about him.
    It is not that I do not watch the Flyweights only because they are small, I do not watch them because I saw some of those fights before (including fights by Demetrious, Benavidez and McCall) and I was not impressed at all.
    Obviously they are fast, but they spend a lot of time just jumping around, throwing a couple of powerless punches or kicks and then moving, and I got very bored watching that.

    There is a huge difference between a 155 division and a 125.
    I do not see the 125 division being a big draw in the near future, and it is not that they created this division yesterday, they created it over a year ago and so far it is a huge minority who likes this division.
    Pfff, and to think that there have been talks about a 115 division, LOL

    As for boxing, boxing is a dying sport, and Mayweather and Pacman are the biggest draws because there is no one in any other division that right now is a huge draw.
    Even the Klitschkos are disliked by many people becase their style is not the most exciting to watch.

    However in MMA you have plenty of draws in many divisions, so it will be extremely hard that people get interested in the 125 division.
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    I thought it was a great fight and mighty mouse made it 5 times better by going for that sub in the last round. Of course it would be better if that division was a little deeper, but hopefully it will get there over time.



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