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    Default Davis vs. Machida: Fight Metrics at odds with official score

    Phil Davis received a unanimous decision win over Lyoto Machida Saturday night at UFC 163.

    The fans thought Machida easily did enough to win. The sentiment was expressed by UFC president Dana White, who is among other things a huge fan.

    "I had Machida winning all 3 rds," tweeted White, adding, "but that's what happens when u leave it up to the judges!"

    A side by side comparison of the official judge's score card and the often eerily correct Fight Metrics shows that not only were the judges all over the place, but that the statistical report shows the fight for Machida, unanimously, and for every round.

    Sal D'Amato
    Round 1: 10-9 Davis
    Round 2: 10-9 Davis
    Round 3: 9-10 Machida

    Chris Watts:
    Round 1: -10 Machida
    Round 2: 10-9 Davis
    Round 3: 10-9 Davis

    Rick WInter
    Round 1: 10-9 Davis
    Round 2: 10-9 Davis
    Round 3: 9-10 Machida

    UFC 163's Phil Davis on judges' decisions: 'You forfeit your right to be upset'

    "Fighting is an emotional thing," he said after the pay-per-view co-headliner. "If I had lost this fight, I would be like, 'I didn't lose that fight, and they know it.' That's how it is. You put all you have into it. So everyone who was a Lyoto fan, I understand where you're coming from. It's an emotional thing. You're cheering for your guy. He's a Brazilian. I can imagine how that feels. So no, I'm not disrespected."

    Davis (12-1 MMA, 8-1 UFC) scored a few timely takedowns and avoided most of the karate specialist's substantial strikes. However, most media outlets scored the fight for Machida (19-4 MMA, 11-4 UFC), who earned a 30-27 score on's scorecard.

    But if Davis were in Machida's shoes and were on the other side of the 29-28 scores, he also knows he'd have little excuse to complain.

    "I know how this works," Davis said. "Anytime it goes to the judges, you forfeit your right to be upset. You've just got to give it to the judges, and whatever they say is what they say."

    But how did Davis personally score it?

    "Obviously, I think I actually won," he said. "Why wouldn't I think that?"

    The former NCAA Division I national wrestling champion, who made a great stride in the division with a win over such a noted striker, still wants to rewatch the fight before he makes an official declaration. After all, he said, his initial view of the bout was much different than the one fans experienced cageside or on television. Sure, he felt he cut off angles well, and against an elusive and hard-to-target opponent like Machida, that's no easy feat.

    But he understands if it didn't translate for at-home viewers.

    "I have to watch it on TV when I get home," he said. "It's so hard to know which rounds you won when you're watching it first-person. It looks completely different from where you're sitting from where I was. So I don't know. I'll have to go and check it out.

    "But the Brazilian crowd, they are loud. It was a really hostile environment. They were cheering loud for Lyoto."

    Davis tried to remain upbeat after the fight, even though he knows he's probably persona non grata in the South American country today. Still, he wouldn't mind a return trip to Brazil, where he's 2-0 against Brazilian opponent. Next time, though, he doesn't want to fight a local.

    "As for fighting in Rio, it's not a bad place to fight," he said. "But I want to fight an American down here next. No more of this. Come on, guys. Get the crowd on my side."

    Lyoto Machida says 'positive thinking' key to coping with difficult loss

    "I believe Phil was not looking to attack, was not going forward and was trying to score points at the end of rounds," Machida said. "But this is not a wrestling match. This is MMA, and I think that the judges need to be more attentive to details. They need to look for who is going forward the most.

    "By the end of the fight he was hurt and bleeding. I managed to land several strikes."

    Davis and Machida met in the co-main event of Saturday's UFC 163 event, which took place in Rio de Janeiro's HSBC Arena and aired on pay-per-view. According to FightMetric official statistics, Machida held an edge in significant strikes at 27-21. He also showed impressive grappling prowess, stopping eight of Davis' 10 takedown attempts.

    The statistic company's own scoring methods produced a 30-27 result for Machida. Yet it was Davis who was declared the winner, 29-28 on all cards, when the scores of judges Sal D'Amato, Chris Watts and Rick Winter were revealed.

    The crowd went ballistic when the result was read, but Davis believes the scores indicate judges are not driven by hometown influences they way it is often suggested.

    "A lot of people could think that because the fight was so close and in Brazil that the judges could have been biased," Davis said. "But they scored it how they scored it, and I think it is proof that they do the best work they can and that there is no bias."

    That's little consolation for Machida, who was promised a title shot with a February win over Dan Henderson but now sees that hope vanish. Machida, who admitted he was also battling through a foot injury suffered 10 days out from the fight, was visibly frustrated at the evening's post-event press conference but said he would try to remain positive as he returns to the gym in hopes of starting again another run at the belt.

    "I just have to have positive thinking," Machida said. "I can't keep crying. We know what happened. Let's see what the future reserves for us."
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