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Thread: Davis vs. Machida: Fight Metrics at odds with official score

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I don't know who is the authority, but I default to BJM the most. The original piece--I think it was a transcription of an audio--where he went over the "back of the head/mohawk" bit had some stuff about percentages equating to effectiveness.

    I think you have to play it case by case...I'm not asking for a blanket "higher percentage equates to more effective" policy or anything. I think in your example, you'd have to look at how the leg kicks impact the fight. If it takes away a fighters lead leg, makes them unable to shoot or to plant for hard strikes, those are great strikes. If they're just pitter patter shots, amid a lot of whiffs, they're not as big of a deal. I felt throughout this fight in particular, Machida was landing more often with bigger shots, when he wanted them, and was doing a great job of controlling the pace and the octagon. I'm not a mark for Lyoto--I felt his win over Henderson was a draw--but I feel he won a close fight pretty decisively against Davis.

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    That's funny, because Davis had more take downs than Henderson against Lyoto, and Lyoto took down Henderson...he didn't take down Davis.... And according to fight metric Davis had more significant strikes than Henderson. Machida in both fights, same number of Sig Strikes. Machida also had nearly the same number of total strikes in both fights also.... So how can he draw one where he did more and his opponent less. But then you say he clearly won the other. No, not a mark for Machida at all, just a Davis Hater maybe?!

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    I think lyoto won this fight but barely. It definetly proved to me that jones would smash him again if there was a rematch.

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    My whole issue with the fight is I could not help but feel that if Machida would have turned it up a notch he could have finished the fight. I think it was a close fight, and while I was surprised to hear Davis won I can not say I am that upset about it. Unless Machida decides to let loose he is always going to face this problem. Whether he was effective or not at live speed he can look ineffective at times. We have to remember the judges do not have the same vantage point during the fight that we do. A lot can be easily missed by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    My whole issue with the fight is I could not help but feel that if Machida would have turned it up a notch he could have finished the fight. I think it was a close fight, and while I was surprised to hear Davis won I can not say I am that upset about it. Unless Machida decides to let loose he is always going to face this problem. Whether he was effective or not at live speed he can look ineffective at times. We have to remember the judges do not have the same vantage point during the fight that we do. A lot can be easily missed by this.
    that was the same deal against rampage in my opinion and maybe even hendo. i think lyoto has the ability to finish anybody he just chooses not to i guess out of fear of being caught or gassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trustym2 View Post
    That's funny, because Davis had more take downs than Henderson against Lyoto, and Lyoto took down Henderson...he didn't take down Davis.... And according to fight metric Davis had more significant strikes than Henderson. Machida in both fights, same number of Sig Strikes. Machida also had nearly the same number of total strikes in both fights also.... So how can he draw one where he did more and his opponent less. But then you say he clearly won the other. No, not a mark for Machida at all, just a Davis Hater maybe?!
    mostly because I score fights round by round and not by looking at fightmetric. If that makes me a some kind of hater, feel free to label me as such.

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