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    Default Longo: "Anderson has a major task ahead of him"

    http://www.fightersonlymag.com/conte...-ahead-of-himq

    Describing the former champion as “a 40-year old man” (he’s actually 38), Longo says that all the talk of the UFC 162 knockout being a fix or a fluke will only motivate Weidman more.

    “Nobody’s taking that victory away. We all know what happened, and anybody who’s worked out with him, sparring or wrestling, they know he’s going to do it again,” he tells Ring Fever.

    “If they motivate him by saying this was a fluke, he might kill a guy, yeah, he’ll hurt him... he's that type of guy, yeah.

    “You're taking a 40 year old man who got his head bounced off the canvas. Like what doctor is he going to that is going to recommend that he get back in there? 'Couple of months, that's good.' Just had a major concussion. 'Yah put him in that's good...' Guy's 40 years old, he's got a big task ahead of him.”

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    What a reality check it'll be for Longo when he watches Chris get taken apart in under 3 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The8thPlague View Post
    What a reality check it'll be for Longo when he watches Chris get taken apart in under 3 minutes.

    Yeah like last time o.0

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    Wiedmens biggest asset going in the first time was Anderson was unmotivated and under estimated him. It will be a big task for Anderson, but it will be for Chris too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    Wiedmens biggest asset going in the first time was Anderson was unmotivated and under estimated him. It will be a big task for Anderson, but it will be for Chris too.
    I'm sorry, exactly when did Anderson say he was unmotivated or underestimated him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by the_dark_angel_4ever View Post
    I'm sorry, exactly when did Anderson say he was unmotivated or underestimated him?
    I never heard Anderson say it either, but they way he acted in the fight clearly showed that he underestimated Weidman's striking, IMO. Lose by sub, gnp, or UD? Sure. But lose by brutal KO? I doubt that scenario seemed likely to the Spider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_dark_angel_4ever View Post
    I'm sorry, exactly when did Anderson say he was unmotivated or underestimated him?
    I'm an Anderson fan, but the proof is in the pudding my man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    that was my opinion sorry should of worded it a little better, but do you think Anderson took Chris serously for the way he acted?
    I think Anderson took the fight deadly seriously. I think he was worried about the fight from the moment Chris lit up Munoz. soares immediately tried to avoid it, Anderson himself came out and literally said "he'd be a fool" to face Weidman, and the camp did whatever they could to stall or instill another contender.

    Anderson came into the bout in great shape and in full health. He fought the way he's fought before, with Lietes, with Maia, with Forrest. But he didn't have a problem with size and with KO power from any of those guys.

    I would say Anderson underestimated Weidman--even though he was clearly and obviously worried about fighting him. I believe Anderson gave Chris a lot of credit, but he simply didn't give him enough credit. But that doesn't automatically translate to "not taking the fight seriously" any more than not wanting to fight someone because of risk/reward concerns immediately translates into being afraid of someone. Too many interweb fans want to reduce something into black and white, overly simplistic terms that simply do not apply.
    Quote Originally Posted by earle View Post
    I never heard Anderson say it either, but they way he acted in the fight clearly showed that he underestimated Weidman's striking, IMO. Lose by sub, gnp, or UD? Sure. But lose by brutal KO? I doubt that scenario seemed likely to the Spider.
    Just because it doesn't seem likely doesn't mean that he didn't take things seriously. I believe he had a great understanding of how dangerous Chris was as a grappler, and with GnP. But I think it's important to note how often Anderson has employed a serious reach advantage. He's never NOT had a reach advantage in facing someone who could knock him out. I think he, like many, bought into the "Munoz was fat and sucked anyway" bullshit that was spread when Weidman was named #1 contender. I believe he thinks that side-by-side, he'd school Chris in a kickboxing/MT match. But he didn't factor in that the bulk of his experience has been fighting smaller fighters who simply couldn't knock him out if they managed to connect.

    and while I know you haven't said any of this specifically, that's still not a matter of him not taking the fight seriously, or giving it away/losing the fight on purpose, or any other bullshit that gets bandied about by Anderson fanboys/Weidman haters.

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    I just want the fight to come and be done so we can hopefully put an end to te debate. Chris's fans don't want to think Anderson under estimated and lost due to his own mistakes, and Anderson's fans want to believe it was a fluke, some even desperately so.
    It wasn't a fluke.

    Even if Anderson comes back and incorporates and executes a smarter plan, it doesn't erase this bout, or excuse this bout. It just means that even as an old dog with a bag overflowing with tricks, that Anderson still has the ability to learn from every bout.

    But Anderson lost to the guy who was the better fighter on that specific night. It doesn't mean Weidman is the better fighter forever, it just means he was the better fighter that night. That's what makes MMA so amazing, and that's what makes rematches so important. When Anderson wasn't actively looking for a rematch with Henderson, when he allowed soares to mislead the bulk of an uneducated and ignorant fan base was the first point where I had concerns about the champion. He's always had the skills to beat Dan a second time and prove beyond any doubt. Instead, he went the other way. I don't have a label for it, but it certainly wasn't the way of a game fighter, of a fighter with a champion's heart.

    Anyway. Both guys have everything at stake. Weidman has to prove it wasn't a fluke, and silva has to price it was. An unenviable position on both sides. Both guys should be as motivated as they've ever been. It will a hell of a fight I'm sure.
    I disagree.

    The fluke card is only on the table if Weidman pulls a Serra and never has another significant bout in his career. And that's where the comparisons end. Serra was on the verge of retirement, a virtual has-been moving up a weight class to get a shot at GSP. Weidman is currently undefeated and posed a viable threat to Anderson even before the bout was signed.

    The only people who are trying to seriously dismiss the fight as a fluke are either fanboys are haters, and don't know what they're talking about.

    It happened. It was real. A rematch doesn't change anything but who holds the belt after the final bell.

    But anyone who thinks Anderson took the fight lightly needs to go back and revisit how hard he and his camp tried to avoid it. Anyone who thinks he wasn't serious from the moment he signed the bout agreement needs to consider how difficult it is for a 38 year old man to get in that kind of shape, and perform as well as he did in the first round.

    Miscalculating striking distance because you've spent 10 years sporting a reach advantage over anyone with the actual power to KO you doesn't equate to a lack of interest or focus. It's a practical concern, a lack of appropriate application of skill--and one that Anderson certainly possesses the capability of rectifying.

    But when and if he manages to do so, it doesn't mean the loss was a fluke, or that Silva didn't have one night in a legendary UFC career where he simply was not the better fighter.

    And that degree of variability is what makes MMA so fucking great.

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