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    Default Frankie Edgar, B.J. Penn selected as 'TUF 19' coaches, will meet at 145 pounds

    The UFC's pound-for-pound king of rematches will takes part in another career trilogy.

    UFC officials today announced that former UFC lightweight champion Frankie Edgar will face for a third time former dual-division title holder B.J. Penn in a featherweight showdown.

    The matchup, which was revealed on Wednesday's new edition of "UFC Tonight," is scheduled to take place after the two serve as coaches on "The Ultimate Fighter 19," which debuts in January. Edgar and Penn are expected to fight at an as-yet-undetermined event in April.

    Edgar and Penn (16-9-2 MMA, 12-5-1 UFC) met twice in 2010, with "The Answer" victorious over "The Prodigy" in both contests. At UFC 112, Edgar claimed the UFC lightweight title. He then defended the belt four months later at UFC 118. Both results came via unanimous decision.

    UFC President Dana White said he booked the fight after Penn informed him he had a burning to desire to avenge his two losses to Edgar.

    "He says, 'I can beat Frankie Edgar,'" White said. "The two first fights were BS. I want that fight agin. I want to beat this guy so bad. It's all I want."

    Edgar, of course, fought as a lightweight for the majority of his career. However, he made the drop to 145 pounds earlier this year for a failed bit to unseat champ Jose Aldo. In July, he bounced back with a win over Charles Oliveira.

    Meanwhile, Penn is a former titleholder at both 170 and 155 pounds. However, the fight with Edgar would mark his first at featherweight.
    I'm a Penn fan but his cario at FW is a huge question for me.

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    If Penn can stay motivated and get his cardio right this would be a good move for him. I still don't see this going any other way than Frankie going 3-0 against BJ. Frankie's footwork, cardio, and BJ's lack thereof will be the difference yet again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    How many times can we say IF...I mean it has not happened in a long time
    I don't think it's Bj's motivation that is the real issue, it is his preparation. He can train hard all he wants, were past that age of mma, he needs to start training smart. He needs proper game plans and proper training to prepare him for specific opponents. I remember when he was getting ready for the 2nd edgar fight and he said he was just doing the same things he did to prepare for the first fight, that was a big warning sign for what followed. He needs to ditch the "just scrap" mentality and fight smart. For frankie in particular, i think he needs to get his foot work on point and utilize his wrestling and awesome bjj. I know it is easier said than done, but when bj actually got desperate in their fight he got a few takedowns, albeit frankie got right back up, but if bj planned them out and set them up better, he could have made it a much tougher fight for edgar imo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    I don't think it's Bj's motivation that is the real issue, it is his preparation. He can train hard all he wants, were past that age of mma, he needs to start training smart. He needs proper game plans and proper training to prepare him for specific opponents. I remember when he was getting ready for the 2nd edgar fight and he said he was just doing the same things he did to prepare for the first fight, that was a big warning sign for what followed. He needs to ditch the "just scrap" mentality and fight smart. For frankie in particular, i think he needs to get his foot work on point and utilize his wrestling and awesome bjj. I know it is easier said than done, but when bj actually got desperate in their fight he got a few takedowns, albeit frankie got right back up, but if bj planned them out and set them up better, he could have made it a much tougher fight for edgar imo.
    He NEEDS a camp that isn't full of yes men.

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    White: BJ Penn is fighting some demons right now
    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...ons-right-now/

    "B.J. sends me a text that says, ‘Dana, I want to fight Ben Henderson,'" related White. "So I immediately pick up my phone and call him, and he doesn't answer. This was two days ago."

    "B.J. calls me 45 minutes later. He's like, ‘Hey Dana, I didn't answer your phone call because I don't want you to talk me out of this. I know how you are. I know what you're going to say, and you're going to talk me out of it.' I was like, you're damn right I'm going to talk you out of it. He says, ‘The reason I want to fight Ben Henderson is because I believe if I beat Ben Henderson, you'll give me a shot to fight Frankie Edgar.' I'm like, ‘Frankie Edgar?' And he goes, ‘Yeah, I want this Frankie Edgar fight worse than anything. Those two losses are a rock in my shoe. He should've never beat me. That guy can't beat me.'"

    "B.J. is one of these guys who, I think, is fighting some demons right now, in that, if he could go back and do it all over again, I think he'd do it differently."

    "I'll tell you again. B.J. Penn is a legend. He's been here since the day we bought the company. Me and B.J. have had our times when we butted heads on many things. If he wants it, I'm going to give it to him."

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    This is sad. BJ hasn't won a fight since 2010, and Frankie is a top 5 FW. Even if the first fight was controversial, there is no need to match these two up at this point. And BJ at 145? Yeah... I just don't feel good about this at all.

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    This fight is terrible. Terrible matchmaking from the UFC, which as of late has been pretty shambolic. Who wants to see this fight?! Not to mention who wants to see them as TUF coaches? Bj was a pretty entertaining coach but Edgar has the personality of a chair.. and I'm a HUGE Edgar fan.

    Waste of 2 potentially exciting match ups. This fight makes absolutely no sense.

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    What the hell does Frankie gain from this besides $$$?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynnja View Post
    What the hell does Frankie gain from this besides $$$?
    He gets to punch BJ in the face till his corner throws in the towel.
    Cash and a punching bag.. Not a bad deal.


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