You guys are dicks
I just don't understand how fans could hate jones. I understand dislike b/c he comes off as inscinere (sorry not even spell check could fix that) but hate? I hate the guy from Cleveland who held those women hostage. I hate pedophiles. I get that but a sports star? Are people just jealous? On another note don't read what the idiots write if u know it will be bad. Also congrats on the marriage I had not heard he got married. /end rant
That's gonna be FOTY for sure. Now everyone is ragging Jones about his strike defense, how about giving credit to those accurate laser shots GUS landing, hell I think GUS could out strike Lyoto Michida easily. I think Jones can improve, but only so much. GUS has radar in those fists, but he's vonurable to 14I would even say he would have a good shot against Anderson Silva and that fight could happen! I'm am now a big GUS fan, and can't wait for his next fight! This is not a night to complain about shit if you are a true MMA fan! This is a night to celebrate a full display of the evolution of Mixed Martial Arts! This was worthy of a Movie Fight Scene! I deeply regret not buying this PPV, and I never say that.....ever.
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Good fight, I think it's typical that a lot of people seem to be focusing on jones in a critical manner, instead of being impressed by goose. I though jones would wreck goose... And instead goose almost took his belt. That was more then just equal size...I'm not saying jones looked great, but goose stuffing his takedowns, striking him frequently, and having a hell of a chin had a lot to do with it. It's similar to when Cain dominated dos santos in the second fight, a lot of people came on here questioning Cain's finishing power, instead of complementing the clinic he put on, or even how fucking tough jds was.
I'm mostly interested to see jones next fight, how he improves over what seemed to be almost a mental loss to him...Jones certainly learned he needs to work on some things, which is good for him.
Anyway, great fight. Both those guys are warriors. Was really impressed by goose.
Most importantly, I thought Gus exploded the myth that Jones is a great grappler.
I'm not going to call you a hater, but I don't think Jones' boxing is actually garbage.All in all, the fight exposed what most of us all thought, that Jones boxing is garbage. He relies soo much on his length with his leg jabs, that he doesnt really seem to use any technique in his whole striking game. He probably realizes his boxing aspirations are a bit premature. Hats off to Goose for working on his TDD diligently, and all that training with Phil Davis and Swedish wrestling team has paid off, cause all those stuff TD kept the fight standing, and made it into a FOTY candidate.
If there is a black-and-white line that makes it either p4p the best or garbage, I'd put it in garbage territory...because it's significantly closer to garbage than it is to p4p elite in power or technique. But that's just a reaction to the ridiculous volume of overhype the guy gets. I don't think his striking is horrible. I think it's good. Just good. Not great, just good. I think he's relied on his length advantage and has never been pushed, so he's been lazy. But I don't think it's bad, or garbage.
Who has been bigger than him? Or more specifically, who has been close to having his length/reach?
I knew Gus was going to expose the striking as less-than-awesome...but I was surprised at how he completely handled him grappling. I think that's a bigger story than the striking.
First of all, I don't hate Jones. But I don't think he's 1/10th as amazing as he's hyped up to be. I don't have him as top 3 pound for pound. I don't think he's a great striker or a great grappler--yet.
And those statements will often be misinterpreted as criticism of him, or worse, just hating on him. That's foolish, and ignorant. But it is what it is.
But there is a whole other level of ignorance that the anonymity of the intereweb produces, where some asshole with a keyboard feels confident enough to talk shit about another man's wife...but it's something that they would NEVER say to his face. Louis CK did a great job of breaking that down the other day on Conan, talking about texting and cell phones and how an entire generation is growing up without human interaction [and the subsequent asskickings occasionally involved] to help them realize that being a douchebag is being a douchebag.
anyone who would ever post anonymously about someone's wife, or kid, or whatever is an asshole. It's even weaker than sucker punching someone...and anyone who has ever sucker punched anyone, anytime, for any reason, is a waste of skin.
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