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Thread: Official UFC 167: St. Pierre vs Hendricks discussion thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimerules28 View Post
    Dana's not the brightest person in the world.
    I hope for Dana's sake Johnny doesn't piss hot after all the shit both of them have talked about the decision and the performance put on in the fight. Not to mention the talk about VADA vs WADA testing.

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    I'll start by sqying I dislike gsp the fighter to no end I also think hendricks won that fight withiut a shadow of a doubt but how good was it to seeca gsp fight that was actually exciting and contested

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    I wish GSP would've set up his head kick better. Every time he threw it he never set it up. When he threw a jab or double jab Hendricks would bow his head to the left. Felt like he could've landed it Kind of like how Rashad landed his on Sean Salmon. The fight was close, obviously a lot closer then Hendricks thought it was.
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    Close fight I could see it going either way to be honest... not a robbery to either fighter. GSP owes no one anything at this point in his career if he decides to retire then good for him.

    Lastly Rogan and Goldberg were absolutely terrible with their in fight calls tonight through out the whole event. I'll usually tolerate the poor play by play because they do provide some other things of value but they went on mute tonight it was so bad.
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    Joe Rogam has been increasingly worse all the time. His bias for certain fighters is brutal. I not sure I would even call him the better half of the broadcasting duo at this point.
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    wow...i just watched the fight expecting an absolute robbery because of everything ive been seeing on social media and what not but boy was i wrong. it was a really close fight and a valid case could be made that gsp won three rounds albeit doing way less damage.

    i saw people on other sites saying this is worse than shogun/machida. no way in hell was this a worse decision. honestly it is more the scoring system's fault than the judges themselves this time. pride scoring system hendricks would have definitely won the fight

    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    Joe Rogam has been increasingly worse all the time. His bias for certain fighters is brutal. I not sure I would even call him the better half of the broadcasting duo at this point.
    you are right it was horrible and has been getting worse. not sure if you saw the villante fight but joe was ripping on him hardcore the whole fight and complimenting the otherguy. then in the middle of it all villante knocks the dude out i was laughing at how stupid rogan made himself look.

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    The St. Pierre fight was super close. I was moderatly surprised at the decision but need to see it again. I had a tough time scoring the fight and am still not sure about it. Anyway I had to work this morning so I didn't watch the presser so I don't know what it is that was said. St. Pierre always looks busted up after fights, sure Hendricks landed some big shots but the fight should not be scored by who cuts and bruises easier. Super close fight, I was riveted the entire time.

    I am very happy St. Pierre "retired" and I hope he does not come back to MMA to compete. He was an amazing competitor but I think it is time to go before he gets hurt badly.
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    Observations:
    I could see the fight going either way. I'd have scored it close for Hendricks, but I didn't feel it was a robbery. I didn't even feel like it was worse than the Goose/Jones decision. I certainly didn't think it compared to Shogun/Machida 1.

    HORRIBLE game plan for Georges, but ups to him for being willing to mix it up and not play it as safe as I'd suspected.

    As far as his psuedo retirement, I REALLY think it's time for zuffa to have a policy regarding title defenses. If a champ doesn't defend at least once in a 12 month period, strip them. I'd love to see the 4-person/2-round tourneys that the CSAC did for SF as a compromise for real tourneys, but I doubt we'll see either.

    I'll reserve judgement on the motivation behind Georges' leave of absence until we find out what it's about. If he's hurt or has serious family issues to attend to, ups to him for getting his priorities right, but he should have at least mentioned it to dana first, knowing what an asshole dana is prone to be. If he's pursuing a money-making adventure, he's a bitch and zuffa should cut him. Fighters fight, champions defend.

    dana was a typical asshole. I don't expect anything more from him.

    Hendricks has always been too whiney for me to really get behind. I can understand being pissed about a close decision that he felt went the wrong way, but it occurred to me that I really don't want him as WW champ, as I don't see him as a good ambassador for the sport. I understand that dana's assholery is fuel for Hendricks' whiney fire, but he could have taken the high road. It seems like NOBODY in MMA has any concept of a high road anymore. Thanks for that, zuffa.

    That being said, I think Condit beats Hendricks in a rematch, if he has a strong game plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by JPeezy View Post
    Everywhere but the damage department it was close. There it was a blow out
    damage isn't a department.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Muss View Post
    I'll start by sqying I dislike gsp the fighter to no end I also think hendricks won that fight withiut a shadow of a doubt but how good was it to seeca gsp fight that was actually exciting and contested
    I thought so too. I was surprised when he went in for exchanges and actually shot for TD's in the first. I was pretty certain at that point that he was going to retire, and was trying to go out with a statement. But I figured it his strategy would lose him the fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    wow...i just watched the fight expecting an absolute robbery because of everything ive been seeing on social media and what not but boy was i wrong. it was a really close fight and a valid case could be made that gsp won three rounds albeit doing way less damage.
    Exactly. I've watched it twice times now, and watched that first round 4 times. Anyone thinking it was anything close to a robbery is watching it with bias to the point where they're blinded.

    DAMAGE DOESN'T FACTOR IN SCORING. It never has. Throw that out of the equation, and the first round is pretty 50/50.

    But it wasn't anything close to a robbery, no matter who you think won.

    I don't agree with immediate rematches, but zuffa set a precedent for them with all the Frankie Edgar fights. If they don't give one to Goose, I don't see why Hendricks should get one...but I wouldn't be shocked if zuffa makes an immediate rematch in...say 6 months...and if GSP doesn't accept, they strip him, and bomb the market with nonsense about what a "robbery" the decision was in an attempt to legitimize Hendrick's place in the division.

    you are right it was horrible and has been getting worse. not sure if you saw the villante fight but joe was ripping on him hardcore the whole fight and complimenting the otherguy. then in the middle of it all villante knocks the dude out i was laughing at how stupid rogan made himself look.
    I haven't listened to a UFC event with the sound on for about 5 or six years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    As far as his psuedo retirement, I REALLY think it's time for zuffa to have a policy regarding title defenses. If a champ doesn't defend at least once in a 12 month period, strip them. I'd love to see the 4-person/2-round tourneys that the CSAC did for SF as a compromise for real tourneys, but I doubt we'll see either.

    I'll reserve judgement on the motivation behind Georges' leave of absence until we find out what it's about. If he's hurt or has serious family issues to attend to, ups to him for getting his priorities right, but he should have at least mentioned it to dana first, knowing what an asshole dana is prone to be. If he's pursuing a money-making adventure, he's a bitch and zuffa should cut him. Fighters fight, champions defend.

    dana was a typical asshole. I don't expect anything more from him.

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    I have to agree, but to me I couldn't care less what his motivation is for leaving and I hope he leaves forever. He (St. Pierre) hasn't looked nearly as good since he blew his knee and I think it is time. I saw a quote from Dana and I don't have a source but he basically said St. Pierre owes the UFC which is totally bogus to me esp when Dana also says that St. Pierre is the biggest draw ever. Dana from that quote is being outrageous in my eyes and should be supporting the guy who brings the most money in and thanking him for being involved in such a great fight.

    I see Hendricks or Condit as the next WW champion and that is cool with me. When, and I'm saying when because I'm optimistic that St. Pierre will retire fully, St. Pierre relinquishes the belt I will be changing my vote to wanting to see Condit with the belt.

    I was very impressed with Hendricks' ability to control St. Pierre, I did not think we would see as much clinch game so that was neat. Also impressed with the cardio that Hendricks showed and I think he will be a top contender or champion for the foreseeable future.

    Koscheck needs to take a break.

    Lawler was impressive, I don't care what people saw about Rory, he was impressive and that was an awesome fight! Don't have to go toe to toe to impress the blood thirsty slobberknocker fans.

    A+ to the card!
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