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    Default My Mixed Martial Arts Rankings

    it's been a while since i've posted anything and i'm bored as hell so i figured i'd post my mma rankings. i took several things into consideration such as win/loss record, level competition, finishing rate, etc. i think the bottom halves of heavyweight, welterweight, and featherweight were the hardest to rank. again, these are my rankingss (my opinion), but of course discussion/debate is welcomed.

    heavyweight
    1. cain velasquez
    2. junior dos santos
    3. daniel cormier
    4. fabricio werdum
    5. josh barnett
    6. travis browne
    7. mark hunt
    8. alistair overeem
    9. stipe miocic
    10. gabriel gonzaga
    honorable mentions: mir, nelson, struve
    **antonio silva was not ranked due to his current suspension.

    light-heavyweight
    1. johnny jones
    2. alexander gustaffson
    3. phil davis
    4. rashad evans
    5. glover texiera
    6. antonio rogerio nogueira
    7. gegard mousasi
    8. dan henderson
    9. chael sonnen
    10. mauricio rua
    honorable mention: newton, bader, manuwa

    middleweight
    1. chris weidman
    2. anderson silva
    3. vitor belfort
    4. ronaldo souza
    5. lyoto machida
    6. michael bisping
    7. luke rockhold
    8. tim kennedy
    9. frances carmont
    10. mark munoz
    honorable mention: shlemenko, phillipou, boetsch

    welterweight
    1. johnny hendrix
    2. carlos condit
    3. robbie lawler
    4. jake shields
    5. rory macdonald
    6. demian maia
    7. martin kampmann
    8. ben askren
    9. jake ellenberger
    10. tyron woodley
    honorable mention: saffedine, brown, lombard
    **georges st. pierre was not ranked due to his current hiatus.

    lightweight
    1. anthony pettis
    2. benson henderson
    3. gilbert melendez
    4. josh thompson
    5. t.j. grant
    6. nathan diaz
    7. eddie alvarez
    8. michael chandler
    9. rafeal dos anjos
    10. khabib nurmagomedov
    honorable mentions: cerrone, khabilov, jury

    featherweight
    1. jose aldo jr.
    2. chad mendes
    3. ricardo lamas
    4. frankie edgar
    5. cub swanson
    6. chan sung jung
    7. dustin poirier
    8. clay guida
    9. darren elkins
    10. daniel straus
    honorable mentions: siver, lentz, koch

    bantamweight
    1. dominick cruz
    2. renan pegado
    3. urijah faber
    4. michael macdonald
    5. rafael assuncao
    6. eddie wineland
    7. marlon moraes
    8. takeya mizugaki
    9. brad pickett
    10. t.j. dillashaw
    honorable mentions: fernandes, dantas, rivera

    flyweight
    1. demetrious johnson
    2. joseph benavidez
    3. john dodson
    4. ian mccall
    5. john lineker
    6. john moraga
    7. jussier da silva
    8. ali bagautinov,
    9. joshua sampo
    10. zach makovsky
    honorable mentions: elliot, gaudinot, montague

    women's bantamweight
    1. ronda rousey
    2. cat zigano
    3. miesha tate
    4. alexis davis
    5. sara mcmann
    6. liz carmouche
    7. jessica eye
    8. sarah kaufman
    9. amanda nunes
    10. jessica andrade

    pound for pound
    1. johnny jones
    2. jose aldo jr.
    3. anderson silva
    4. cain velasquez
    5. demetrious johnson
    6. anthony pettis
    7. renan pegado
    8. frankie edgar
    9. chris weidman
    10. vitor belfort
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    Jon Jones should not be mentioned in pound for pound lists. If you want to list him in a "most dominant fighter in their division list" go ahead, but he is like the opposite of what p4p is about.



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    Pretty good list. There is no one that really stands out as being way too highly or lowly ranked with one exeption. Jorgenson is missing.

    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    Jon Jones should not be mentioned in pound for pound lists. If you want to list him in a "most dominant fighter in their division list" go ahead, but he is like the opposite of what p4p is about.
    How do you figure that?
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    If every fighter had the identical body frame where do you think Jon Jones would rank?


    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    How do you figure that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VimyRidge View Post
    If every fighter had the identical body frame where do you think Jon Jones would rank?
    I don't see how this is relevant. It's pound for pound, not inch for inch. The shape of some one builds should not be taken into account. I will bite though. He would rank pretty high. He is very explosive. He has great wrestling. He great submissions. He is extremely hard working. He fights smart. He is very teachable and open minded about learning and utilizing new techniques. He has great submission defense, especially for a man with comically thin arms and legs. For someone with his reach he has good coordination. He has heart. He has conditioning. His success goes far beyond being big and tall like a lot users on this forum can't see, or aren't willing to admit, because of their hate for him (not necessarily talking about you).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    As much as I like Frankie I'm not so sure about that now that he's fighting at 145. He lost to Aldo which drops him down a few spots right off the bat then didn't exactly go out and dominate Olivera in a match that was booked so he could get back in the win column. More fights at 145 will be a true indicator of where Frankie stands
    Frankie is a strange case. He has a great combination of skill, speed, heart and chin that translates very well to fighting bigger fighters at 155. He was fighting the best at LW and arguably beating them. At 145 he doesn't look as good. Oliveira isn't even top 10 and he had a very fight with Frankie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    I've always personally thought of p4p as being more about fighters having equal size in terms of height and body weight not really figuring reach into that mix. Though I guess it should be.

    I'm holding out judgement on Jones til after the Glover match. I think a lot of people are under playing just how Goose skillset was in that fight and in turn are discrediting Jones. I think Jones not being really challenged as much in his previous match couple match ups made him a little complacent.
    I think Jones is incredibly talented, I think Goose is incredibly talented. But I don't think calling into question how Jones performs without a ludicrous length advantage is necessarily downplaying Goose's skill set at all. How many p4p charts is Goose showing up on?

    p4p has always been subjective. It's just unfortunate that it's gotten incredibly biased by the zuffa marketing machine. They're looking to pimp fighters who can be blockbuster sellers, as opposed to trying to educate fans on the sport itself, and the components that make up a skillset.

    As much as I like Frankie I'm not so sure about that now that he's fighting at 145. He lost to Aldo which drops him down a few spots right off the bat
    I don't see how losing to the #1 p4p fighter is a huge problem...especially when it was his first fight in that weight class. No tune up, no adjustment period.
    ...then didn't exactly go out and dominate Olivera in a match that was booked so he could get back in the win column. More fights at 145 will be a true indicator of where Frankie stands
    Olivera is considerably bigger than Frankie, though...and in beating him, he beat very game fighter with size advantage anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    I don't see how this is relevant. It's pound for pound, not inch for inch. The shape of some one builds should not be taken into account.
    You're welcome to your opinion, but when p4p was historically described as "who would win if all fighters were the same size" I don't see how it couldn't be considered...particularly with a physical advantage as obvious and ubiquitous as Jones' reach.

    I don't want to get drawn into a point for point discussion of the rest of your post, but I'll categorically disagree with Jones having great submissions or submission defense. I think it's a huge hole in his game. He almost got subbed by an undertrained MW in Vitor, who hasn't subbed anyone of note in his entire career.

    The best thing I could say about Jones is that he's young and a great worker. He has potential to grow into a p4p elite, and in all probability he will. But right now, he's not even top 5.

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    Shields > Lawler.

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    I'm not used to seeing Renan Barao being refered to by his actual name. I think he should be higher than Cruz due to Dominick's inactivity.

    I also think Cub Swanson should be higher than Frankie Edgar. Edgar's 1-1 in the division while Cub is on a five fight win streak after losing his UFC debut to the number one contender (Lamas),

    Everything else looked alright though.

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    Id have to say that i think hunt beats barnet now. Hos take down def is great now

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    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    Jon Jones should not be mentioned in pound for pound lists. If you want to list him in a "most dominant fighter in their division list" go ahead, but he is like the opposite of what p4p is about.
    yea yea yea...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    Shields > Lawler.
    i can see that since shields beat lawler at middleweight, but i feel lawler's wins over koscheck and macdonald weigh more than shields' wins over maia and woodley (i actually thought woodley won).

    Quote Originally Posted by CA_Gas Bag View Post
    I'm not used to seeing Renan Barao being refered to by his actual name. I think he should be higher than Cruz due to Dominick's inactivity.

    I also think Cub Swanson should be higher than Frankie Edgar. Edgar's 1-1 in the division while Cub is on a five fight win streak after losing his UFC debut to the number one contender (Lamas),

    Everything else looked alright though.
    i agree that cruz's place in the division is debatable. i can also see the argument for swanson to be ranked higher than edgar, but he has losses to the top three in the division while edgar has only loss to the champion (i also think his resume at lightweight should carry some weight).

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