It was during the Cold War when the classification began and it certainly was during the time of Wandy's youth. It had a few modern cities but they were surrounded by favelas and undeveloped rural areas.
Their boom took place post-90's.
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On a list of thing i can do in flip flops; taking down a MMA legend shouldnt be listed next to shuffle board. hahahahaha.
The exact same point I have brought up, Sonnen is the one to claim Wanderlei is willing to fix a fight. We all know Sonnen is willing to be dishonest for monetary gains.... I dont think the fight was fixed but I do think it was set up and planned to happen.. Maybe Sonnen was a little more aware of the plans than Wanderlei, maybe not. Sounds much like Sonnen's Pride claims against Wandy.
I don't mean to show the former wrestler chip that's on my shoulder, but I get sick of it being treated like it's not useful in a street fight. I actually think that a ref being there to stand them up would be a saving grace, so if anything, a street fight favors a guy that can hold the other guy down. They are just as capable of poking an eye, biting, or breaking some fingers, but they can do it from a much more dominant position, where their punches will be more effective. I also feel like the old "hold him there until he died of dehydration" line should go in here somewhere.
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Well, the way I see it, people often say that martial arts are useless in a street fight because the other guy may be carrying a weapon, or his friends may come to help him kick in the head while you are down, and stuff like that.
However if it is a 1 on 1 fight between a trained martial artist and an untrained person, then obviously the trained person will destroy the untrained one.
I trained boxing few years ago with a former professional boxer. And some months ago he got assaulted by 4 dudes in the street. Well he knocked the fuck out of 3 of them and broke the nose of the 4th one. And he ended just with a little cut in the lips.
You should not be a genius to realize that a trained person can kill an untrained one, it does not matter if it is in the street or in a dojo.
The thing is that in a street fight, the "untrained" person may be carrying a knife or a gun, and in that case, no matter how a great Martial Artist you are, you are in some really deep shit.
Not only brazilians can do this stuff
Certainly, both individuals were at least potentially capable of that level of violence. The tailgate was there for anyone to use. Personally, it wouldn't have been on my radar as a potential tactic. I don't think it was on my brother's former bosses, either.
My point is that a lot of factors can be nullified by someone who sees extreme options and is not only willing to use them, but is willing to use them first, particularly if they have the experience to use it effectively and without hesitation or reservation.
I don't know Wandi, and I don't know sonnen. I don't know what either are capable of--I don't know anything. But speaking in general stereotypes, I'd guess Wandi has less restraint than chael, and is probably more capable and more experienced at extreme violence without the support/structure of rules and officials. Going back to the confrontation with the crutch, I also believe [but I obviously don't know] that sonnen is smart enough to realize that Wandi had bought the kafabe heart and soul and was 100% serious, and that there was at least strong potential for him to get hit with that crutch if he rose to the bait. So he avoided the confrontation.
That doesn't make sonnen scared. It makes him intelligent. He's a convicted felon who earns his livelihood in combat sports. He's aware of consequences. He's capable of weighing risk reward, and he's not emotionally invested like Wandi was.
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Coach: Chael Wand brawl was 'orchestrated' by production
According to TUF Brazil 3 coach Jamie Huey, White's criticism of the producers was accurate, as it was the producers who set it up.
“I’ll kind of break something here, that’s not really a story being told," Huey said to TalkingBrawl's Niall McGrath. "Everybody wants to know if that was a set up. Not in regards to Chael or Wanderlei. Kind of something that was being said and done. Which I thought was… production had told Wanderlei, and you can see it after the brawl, Wanderlei goes up to our team and Warlley Alves specifically and says you guys need to watch out for this guy. He’s talking shit about your own team.
"Now production had been telling Wanderlei that Chael had been saying things about our team negatively when they weren’t around. Wanderlei got uh, he was a little, you know, offended by that. It wasn’t true but it was basically something that was said (by) production to Wanderlei to kind of strike up a reaction. I don’t think they thought it was going to go the extreme that it did. And were all being held back on the other side of the door, not knowing what's going on.
"We're getting ready to go to the weigh ins, and the next thing Warlley, Pazzone, and a few other guys bust through the door. I think Dida might have been the first guy to go through the door. And that's when the fight took place. I think it was something that was set up to get a reaction, but inadvertently, nobody knew it was going to go to the extent that it did. I am glad nobody got hurt seriously though."
Huey was asked directly if he believes the production set it up.
“Oh, I know it was," said Huey. "I went out to dinner with a couple of guys and they admitted that it was something that was orchestrated.”
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