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    Jon Jones: I'm sick of seeing UFC light heavyweights fighting 'cans' until they get a title shot
    Fresh off his win over Patrick Cummins at UFC 170, who is probably closer to a cup than a can based on his previous line of work, "DC" sent a message to Jones (via FOX Sports) politely asking for a crack at the crown. "Bones" responded -- just as politely -- by telling him to pound sand.

    "First and foremost, since you're speaking more respectfully, I'll say congratulations on your victory and your weight loss. But as far as giving you a title shot, I have no interest in fighting you right now, only because of the fact that you really haven't fought anyone that I consider a top level fighter. I'm kind of sick of seeing UFC light heavyweights fight against kind of like 'cans' until they get a title shot. I really want to see a top contender fight a top contender and I think you need to fight someone a little bit more well-known than Patrick Cummins. Fight against Rashad [Evans], fight against somebody legit, man. Then I think it would be a little more appropriate to give you that title shot."

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    For the first time ever he has valid a point
    Not only brazilians can do this stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    For the first time ever he has valid a point
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
    Really? It wasnt when he destroyed Shogun? Or put Machida to sleep? Or subbed Rampage and/or Vitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0mega1 View Post
    Really? It wasnt when he destroyed Shogun? Or put Machida to sleep? Or subbed Rampage and/or Vitor
    All of those fights were title shots. I said at the time he fought for the title meaning when he became the # 1 contender his best win was Ryan bader. It is amazing to me that you bolded the words when he fought for the title and still didn't read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    All of those fights were title shots. I said at the time he fought for the title meaning when he became the # 1 contender his best win was Ryan bader. It is amazing to me that you bolded the words when he fought for the title and still didn't read them.
    You should probably reread that. "Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title." that statement says that was his best win, period. It doesnt state it was his best win prior to winning the title.

    Edit: Its worded poorly but I got it. I retract my statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    Yes I know that but he still got a title shot prematurely which he is complaining about other guys doing the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    I don't believe he should jump Phil Davis with his body of work in the UFC so far.
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    I actually don't have a problem with DC needing another fight or two at LHW before he gets a title shot. If Goose past Jimi, he should get the next shot, in my opinion. I'd give Cormier the winner of Davis/AJ...unless Goose loses and Davis wins. If that happens, I'd give Davis the next shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
    I don't agree with the precedent of DC needing more work at LHW, but I agree that Jones is coming off as a contradictory, hypocrite here.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    Yes. And there are viable contenders right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    It could be wrong. It was a long time ago, but I thought Bader was decently ranked at the time Jones beat him. Not a top contender but at least a top ten that was a big prospect and working his way up the ranks at the time.
    I've never had Bader ranked higher than 8 in his career, and that was a soft ranking. But rankings are only good as the logic behind them. The UFC rankings have Cormier at LHW 6 right now, with that win over Cummins.

    Quote Originally Posted by SickNasty View Post
    If DC does get a title shot, it wouldn't be because of UFC 170, but because of his previous accomplishments.
    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    His previous accomplishments were in a different weight class, so they should have no effect on a title shot at LHW. I say "should" but we all know how the UFC works.
    How many fights did Randy have at LHW before fighting for the interim against Chuck?
    The precedent is there...but there are too many viable options right now to employ it without backlash.

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    Do you seriously feel like Jones doesn't contradict himself? Or come off as a whiner a lot of the time?

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