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    Quote Originally Posted by 0mega1 View Post
    You should probably reread that. "Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title." that statement says that was his best win, period. It doesnt state it was his best win prior to winning the title.

    Edit: Its worded poorly but I got it. I retract my statement.
    Yeah I meant when he fought for the title not defending it. Meaning wins prior to the Shogun fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.

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    It could be wrong. It was a long time ago, but I thought Bader was decently ranked at the time Jones beat him. Not a top contender but at least a top ten that was a big prospect and working his way up the ranks at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    It could be wrong. It was a long time ago, but I thought Bader was decently ranked at the time Jones beat him. Not a top contender but at least a top ten that was a big prospect and working his way up the ranks at the time.
    I believe he was ranked. All I remember was that both Jones and Bader were both undefeated with similar records when they fought each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    Yes I know that but he still got a title shot prematurely which he is complaining about other guys doing the same.
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    If DC does get a title shot, it wouldn't be because of UFC 170, but because of his previous accomplishments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SickNasty View Post
    If DC does get a title shot, it wouldn't be because of UFC 170, but because of his previous accomplishments.
    His previous accomplishments were in a different weight class, so they should have no effect on a title shot at LHW. I say "should" but we all know how the UFC works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    I don't believe he should jump Phil Davis with his body of work in the UFC so far.
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    I actually don't have a problem with DC needing another fight or two at LHW before he gets a title shot. If Goose past Jimi, he should get the next shot, in my opinion. I'd give Cormier the winner of Davis/AJ...unless Goose loses and Davis wins. If that happens, I'd give Davis the next shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Yes but he was just saying/doing the opposite not so long ago. He didn't want a Gus rematch and talked about how Texiera should get the shot instead. Also Jones best win was against Ryan Bader when he fought for the title.
    I don't agree with the precedent of DC needing more work at LHW, but I agree that Jones is coming off as a contradictory, hypocrite here.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    Jones didn't just get a title shot based on beating Bader. He got a title shot after he beat Bader due to Evans being hurt and well the timing just worked.
    Yes. And there are viable contenders right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    It could be wrong. It was a long time ago, but I thought Bader was decently ranked at the time Jones beat him. Not a top contender but at least a top ten that was a big prospect and working his way up the ranks at the time.
    I've never had Bader ranked higher than 8 in his career, and that was a soft ranking. But rankings are only good as the logic behind them. The UFC rankings have Cormier at LHW 6 right now, with that win over Cummins.

    Quote Originally Posted by SickNasty View Post
    If DC does get a title shot, it wouldn't be because of UFC 170, but because of his previous accomplishments.
    Quote Originally Posted by RearNakedStroke View Post
    His previous accomplishments were in a different weight class, so they should have no effect on a title shot at LHW. I say "should" but we all know how the UFC works.
    How many fights did Randy have at LHW before fighting for the interim against Chuck?
    The precedent is there...but there are too many viable options right now to employ it without backlash.

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    Do you seriously feel like Jones doesn't contradict himself? Or come off as a whiner a lot of the time?

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