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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    He's earned the extra scrutiny and microscope for his past behaviour....and he's failed again.

    When the dude has been CUT from the UFC for excessively holding submissions in numerous fights and has been officially suspended and reprimanded for holding submissions in the past, he should acknowledge that he has learned from his past mistakes and release once the blatant tap occurred. Palhares is a scumbag who hasn't learned from his previous disciplines and tonight showed me no different, he's going to cripple somebody one of these times.

    Sure, it was of a lesser-degree than some of his more violent holds, but once a guy taps, and a visible tap like that one, you let go, the end result of him holding on a fraction too long is still devastating to his opponent, and the GIF shows, Yves has to break the sub.
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    Ray Sefo Defends Rousimar Palhares’ Submission Hold at WSOF 9
    “Absolutely not,” Sefo responded to MMAWeekly.com by text message when asked if Palhares held the submission for an unreasonable amount of time. “Whoever thinks that is crazy!!”
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    I'm convinced Palhares has something mentally wrong with him that he is STILL holding submissions after the tap. Ridiculous what a fool.
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    I hope Fitch destroys him.
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    I saw nothing wrong with it. He let go as soon as he could when the ref jumped in. Hell, Carl didn't even seem upset about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    I saw nothing wrong with it. He let go as soon as he could when the ref jumped in. Hell, Carl didn't even seem upset about it.
    The ref had to pry his arms apart. If this was anyone else it would probably be a non issue but as someone else said Palhares earned the extra scrutiny. He should have erred on the side of caution and released the second the ref touched him or as soon as he felt the tap.
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    STOP Crying.
    You don't stop punching your opponent til the ref stops you, same goes for Holds.
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    You are told not to let go of a sub until the ref tells you to. Now yes it was a visible tap, would it have been nice to let go of the sub? Yes. But he followed instructions. The grip he used was the "gable grip" A very tight grip that takes a second to break. He wasn't arching his hips like he did last time he just held it. That's a HUGE difference. I've been in that sub a few times and while it still sucks even if the hold is just held, when they arch their hips into it....that's a new world of pain. Still I'd like to see him release quicker. Imagine the advantage this guy has now? If he even momentarily locks that hold, guys will tap out of fear. And honestly there are very few things you can do to stop it once he's in your guard. I'd like to see a fight between him and Askren. But I don't think "funky" Ben wants anything to do with him. Nor most of the Welterweights on the planet for that matter. Paul Harris claims another leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The8thPlague View Post
    STOP Crying.
    You don't stop punching your opponent til the ref stops you, same goes for Holds.
    .....Unless you were fired from your previous job for excessively holding subs.

    Watch the GIF, Yves has to break the sub....Palhares has the submission, Carl is visibly tapping and when the ref comes in to stop it, he STILL has to pull Palhares off. The whole "fight till you're told to stop" isn't the real problem here, it's that once the ref came in, he didn't immediately release the fucking sub, despite having known. Mere moments matter here.

    Palhares's history and subsequent reputation should force him to appreciate WHY he should release submissions. Why is it that nobody else seems to have this problem of continuously maintaining a hold until the ref has to pry him lose?

    There's no crying here, it's simple fact. Palhares has continuously held submissions and his first fight back, where he should have looked to prove he's learned his lesson, he still held on until Yves is breaking his grip. He's a scumbag and it's dangerous and wrong.

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