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    So... here's a question for the masses.
    But first... I apologize if this isn't in the right place. I don't know what "noob jack" is... but maybe this belongs there?

    Anyways.... my question is : What do you think of MMA reporters/writers?

    I ask because a guy named Ben Fowlkes writes these articles that I personally find obnoxious as hell.

    He has a great vocabulary and his grammar is correct and he is obviously knowledgeable about the sport!
    NOT trying to insult him or in any way suggest he isn't a competent writer/reporter.
    BUT!... He has this way of writing that comes off almost as arrogant. Can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's the way that he makes outlandish metaphors (like in his most recent article, which is what got me thinking about this, where he describes Big Nog getting knocked out with the sentence "arms and legs stiffened into that grisly posture known to knockout victims and the corpses of Pompeii."

    The corpses of Pompeii?!?! Really??? That's a strange metaphor!

    Or maybe it's the disrespect that I find troubling. Again, citing his most recent article and THIS little gem : "Or did he just immediately begin calculating the taxes on his show money, wondering whether it would be enough once the forces of financial erosion had finished chipping away at it?"

    What the hell, man!? Implying that Nog was fighting for a paycheque, with NO CHANCE of winning that fight, is a bit arrogant... and insulting.

    I would love to hear thoughts on this... so let me know.
    Am I just lending my own bias to this issue?
    Let me know what you think.

    And to Ben... if you are reading this... I am NOT trying to slam you personally. I'm sure you are a GREAT guy! I'm just not a fan of your writing.

    For me... it's reminiscent of Glenn Beck... not so much reporting the facts... as using events as a backdrop to express your own opinions... as if your opinions ARE facts.

    Rant over.

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    well to me your recent posts that ive noticed have seen quite hostile BUT this does seem like (based on these 2 quotes and no further research) its spin journalism using hyperbole to gain positive or negative attraction (which you are giving him hence I didn't look at his stuff further)

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    MMA journalism is pretty terrible. I'll leave it to rivethead to explain why

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    Everyone has their own form of writing style, and their style may attract viewers and some may sway viewers astray. I personally like his writing it's intriguing, and it helps me along the way to be honest. The great thing about Journalism in all sports is that there is more then one person to follow. You can pick or choose and it all works out in the end.
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    I think this problem covers not only MMA media but any media in general. I once heard of a time (before I was born) where media focused on covering ACCURATE news rather than doing half-assed reporting and focusing on doing whatever it takes to spark emotions within people. It seems to work, people are dumb enough to buy into it therefore nothing will change.

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    Well I think MMA writing tries to stay as true as it can be you know. Like earlier this week a report busted out that Dana was meeting with Gina Carano. It's a writers job to write out scenarios, twists, and different possibilities to what might occur from that meeting. Just doing a job that appeals to the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetallicKnight3X View Post
    ] It's a writers job to write out scenarios, twists, and different possibilities to what might occur from that meeting. Just doing a job that appeals to the fans.
    that's the job of a fiction writer... not a reporter otherwise its just gossip/nonsense/TMZ... a reporter reports the facts and whether or not those facts are interesting is up to the reader/viewer.. speculation is just nonsense and often hurts the subject of the report

    granted I am guilty of wanting to read that stuff when it comes to the NFL draft and fantasy football but at the end of the day its 90% nonsense and the "experts" have very poor accuracy.. so its more or less a waste of time but I do it anyway.. but when it comes to things like Kaepernick being called in by the police (fact) and how it is now "reported" it was about sexual assault (spin/speculation) those things are just stupid and why I hate media.. whether or not its the truth they don't know it because they weren't there or don't have a police report

    MMA journalism should be about what happened in the fight (summary or technique) or interviews.. and sure it is also fun to try and predict who should fight who next but I tend to stay away from official writing and just come on here because I know atleast on here I expect slanted responses and specualation because this is the place for it.. not on ESPN or anything like that... hell even the UFC sponsored tv talk shows with actual fighters I find nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by singinkangaroooo View Post
    that's the job of a fiction writer... not a reporter otherwise its just gossip/nonsense/TMZ... a reporter reports the facts and whether or not those facts are interesting is up to the reader/viewer.. speculation is just nonsense and often hurts the subject of the report

    granted I am guilty of wanting to read that stuff when it comes to the NFL draft and fantasy football but at the end of the day its 90% nonsense and the "experts" have very poor accuracy.. so its more or less a waste of time but I do it anyway.. but when it comes to things like Kaepernick being called in by the police (fact) and how it is now "reported" it was about sexual assault (spin/speculation) those things are just stupid and why I hate media.. whether or not its the truth they don't know it because they weren't there or don't have a police report

    MMA journalism should be about what happened in the fight (summary or technique) or interviews.. and sure it is also fun to try and predict who should fight who next but I tend to stay away from official writing and just come on here because I know atleast on here I expect slanted responses and specualation because this is the place for it.. not on ESPN or anything like that... hell even the UFC sponsored tv talk shows with actual fighters I find nonsense
    Ok then don't read any then. Where do you think guys like Cat-Smasher, Sakara and other posters grab their subjects and post on here to discuss? If it was the same ol typical event results and such.. what else would we have to talk about? If there are not numerous subjects discuss and new news to be reported forums like these would get quite boring. Every single sport has the same type of media writing, I honestly think MMA and Hockey are probably the most straight forward.
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    Alright!!!
    Aside from being told that I seem "hostile" (really!? i've seen some of the posts on here... and i tend to try my best to be congenial and nice... but apparently i'm hostile... bitches!) okay... kidding...

    Anyways... aside from that, it seems that the general consensus is that MMA writing is poor. But no more so than most journalism which, in our day and age, seems to be going through the same struggle that the UFC is... deciding how much "entertainment" will be a factor.

    A lot of great points were made... and from some folks who I've never seen on here before.

    So thanks for the input.

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    Everything in journalism is about shock value and entertainment to provide viewership to increase ad revenue. If you don't want to see "opinion" and instead wish to view the hard-facts you will be hard-pressed to find them. Most people like to be entertained when they read the news rather than be informed. Unfortunately, the world caters to the wants of the masses in regards to news by creating false and fictional events or hyperbolizing.

    An example of the shock value factor would be this article. Before I e-mailed Kid Nate my distaste for the picture they chose, they chose a picture of a KO'd Leben which looked as if he were in a drug-induced stupor. Not only were they making a mockery of Leben but also his attempts to end his drug abuse. They ended up changing the "opinion" as well as the picture.

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