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    Is the UFC ready for an openly gay male fighter?

    Is the UFC ready for an openly gay male fighter?

    "Why not?" Benavidez answered.

    There is an openly gay player in the NBA, the same for NCAA Division I men's college basketball. Michael Sam became the first openly gay player in the NFL on Saturday when he was drafted by the St. Louis Rams and former boxing champion Orlando Cruz came out in 2012.

    Benavidez, one of the best 125-pound MMA fighters on the planet, doesn't think the UFC should be any different.

    "It would be cool to see a gay guy just beat the s*** out of somebody," he told FOX Sports. "I think that would be that much cooler. Busting a stereotype."

    It's funny Benavidez used that word, because you already know the stereotype about UFC fighters. They're supposed to be meatheads and uneducated. How could you expect men and women who punch and choke people for a living to be tolerant or enlightened?

    They're trained to exploit the weaknesses of their opponents in the Octagon. But it seems clear they don't view homosexuality as any such weakness.

    When FOX Sports asked more than a dozen current and former UFC athletes if the league is ready to welcome and accept an openly gay male competitor, it was a nearly unanimous "yes." UFC president Dana White has said for years that an openly homosexual male fighter would not be treated differently. And in 2013, women's bantamweight Liz Carmouche became the first lesbian fighter in the UFC.

    "People shouldn’t be afraid to be who they are -- period," said Miesha Tate, who fought Carmouche last month at FOX UFC Saturday. "Whatever makes you, you at the end of the day, that's unique to you. I think that's what America stands for."
    There are fans who have been unaccepting of gay players in other sports, but Benavidez says, "fans are going to give you crap no matter what sexual orientation you are."

    "It's the same as any sport," UFC light heavyweight Phil Davis said of a male fighter coming out. "I don't see why not. I would not think any less of anyone that did so. It has nothing to do with their capabilities inside the cage."
    "If he's tough, who cares?" Liddell said. "If he's a fighter, he's a fighter. As long as he wins fights, it doesn't matter."
    "I have no prejudice against the gays, but I wouldn't train with someone who's gay," Nogueira told UOL Esporte (translated by Bloody Elbow). "I have no malice, I don't take our physical contact as (something) sexual. But what if the gay person has that malice of having physical contact with me, of staying there grappling? I would have no problems having a gay student in my academy, but I would rather not train with him."

    None of the fighters interviewed by FOX Sports said they did not want to see a gay fighter in the UFC. But both UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones and middleweight contender Luke Rockhold declined to talk about the subject.
    "I don’t really know what I think about homosexuality and MMA," Jones said. "I've never really put much thought into it. It's a very sensitive topic. I'd rather not even comment on it."

    It's almost statistically certain that there are several gay male fighters in the UFC, the same way Sam and Collins aren't the only ones in their respective leagues. They're just the only ones to have gone public. It isn't easy to be a trailblazer by any means.

    "I'll tell you right now, if there was a gay fighter in UFC, I wish he would come out," White said in 2011. "I could care less if there's a gay fighter in the UFC."

    Added bantamweight contender T.J. Dillashaw: "It's the real world. People just need to accept it. … There probably are [gay fighters in the UFC], they just haven't admitted it [publicly] yet."

    "If you're not comfortable with who you are and yourself, that kind of close contact, it doesn’t make any sense to me," she said. "Someone's sexual preference has nothing to do with it anyway. … If you're busy thinking about that when you're fighting somebody, your mind frame is in the wrong place anyway."

    Mike Brown agreed. The current UFC fighter, former WEC featherweight champion and coach at American Top Team in Florida said a gay male fighter should not be a problem in 2014. Brown believes the majority of fighters would be "fine with it."

    "When you're a fighter, you have plenty to worry about already," Brown said. "You're in the cage with someone trying to take your head off. We don't really sweat the small stuff."
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    There are gay fighters all over now; just not ones who are openly stating it for various reasons.
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    We had Dakota Cochran or however you spell his last name. He performed in gay porn but says he is straight. That was as close as we got.

    The fans already yell fag and queer at the fighters, that wouldn't change.

    The thing with MMA unlike other sports, if you make fun of a guy for his sexual orientation, he could really hurt you.
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    I think the whole coming out and announcing it thing is stupid. I think Sam did it to try and boost his draft stock and personally I hate it. Nothing against the fact that he is gay but he was projected a late rd to undrafted FA. The stories that have been posted about him being drafted basically admit to Fisher taking him because of the media surrounding a gay player. Sports stars should be judge on the skills and skills alone.

    I say be yourself. If you are caught or someone ask admit to who you are but this whole coming out of the closest or announcing you are gay is not helping the gay community like everyone thinks. Enough with the drama and special media attention. You want to be accepted and not treated any different then there doesn't need to be an announcement. Unless Sam blows the roof off the place in Stl he will forever be known as the first openly gay football player and that's bullshit. He should be judged like everyone else on the field.

    Same goes for fighters. I highly doubt in 2014 many people care if a fighter is gay or straight. What most care about is can the dude fight. Who in there right mind would want anything detracting from his great of a fighter / football player / athelete they are? Maybe I'm missing something because I don't get it but it seems to me sexual orientation doesn't have anything to do with sports

    And this isn't just my opinion on gay athletes. It applies to people like Tim Tebow as well. The media either loved him or hated him but either watbit always skewed what he did as a player one way or another.

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    I couldn't possibly care less. Show up and put on good fights... That is what y


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Return Of...... View Post
    I think the whole coming out and announcing it thing is stupid....

    I say be yourself... If you are caught or someone ask admit to who you are but this whole coming out of the closest or announcing you are gay is not helping the gay community like everyone thinks. Enough with the drama and special media attention. You want to be accepted and not treated any different then there doesn't need to be an announcement. Unless Sam blows the roof off the place in Stl he will forever be known as the first openly gay football player and that's bullshit. He should be judged like everyone else on the field.
    Sooo... be yourself, but repress that major part of yourself from being public knowledge?

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    The iPhone cut my post off. You don't have to repress it but you don't need to celebrate it either... Just be you and if people know they know. Don't deny who you are, but don't hold a press conference for it either... And to the media, shame on you for making sexuality a focus where it shouldn't be.... I care about as much about who you fuck as what shirt you wore last night...

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    As soon as we stop needing to write articles, and have news broadcasts every time someone "different" steps out their door, we as society can really start working on equality.

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    Well Sam is a different story.. he lobbied that he should have been picked in the third round but the analysts showed other LBs in the 4th or 5th round that had better physical numbers from the combine and they were picked before him and no one had a problem with it... o and he now has the 2nd highest selling rookie jersey in the league so if you think the pick wasn't political youre silly because it certainly was... it was all about who would use a lousy 7th rd pick on him or who would pick him up on the UDFA waivers (he also got extremely negative feedback about how he was kissing his bf and feeding him pie on ESPN but that was overindulgence in my opinion)

    we have a few openly gay female fighters (Roxy on TUF was openly gay from about the first episode and NO ONE cared) but I feel that the public has a double standard on guys being gay vs girls.. but I tend to think that most PROFESSIONAL (based on the amateur events ive been to some would gay bash and jump a guy in the parking lot) MMA fighters wouldn't really care if a dude couldn't quit other dudes... at the end of the day a fighter is a fighter and he is not going to try and beat the hell out of you any different if he had a different sexual orientation.. at worst he would use it as a mental edge and use his sexuality to try to get into the opponents head but that is on the opponent to let that dumb shit go

    either way in one of my favorite quotes from Joe Rogan "there are 2 reasons youre afraid of gay dudes... either youre dumb [slash stupidly religious] or you're secretly worried that dicks are delicious.. that's it!"

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