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    Bends,pettis and Cermine considering Cerrone got his ass handed to him by name Diaz(Ufc) pettis has fought like three times since being in the ufc and got beat by clay guida of all people in his debut, Bendo has been gifted decision against frankie twice and gilt(IMO) then factor in that the ufc lightweight division had names like bj penn,frankie edgar,Kenny florian, diegobsanchez, nate Diaz,

    Who else in the WEC was top ten or close Jamie varner
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    Explain how. The WEC guys came in and tore shit up You cannot deny that itwas a huge step down in competition for Bendo. He went from fighting Anthony Pettis in his last WEC fight to Mark fucking Bocheck in the UFC. The only person to beat Ben in the UFC is another guy from the WEC. There hasn't been a non-wec bred lightweight champion in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    The top guys in the WEC, Pettis, Bendo and Cerrone are very good. Pettis and Bendo are both top 3. Cerrone is a top ten fighter. There was a big drop off in talent after those three fighters.
    I don't have Cerrone as a top 10 fighter currently, but he was arguably softly ranked at top 10 at the point of the merger...although it would be tough, there was a LOT of active lightweight talent in Japan at that point, as well.

    But in no way did the UFC have the majority of the talent before that.

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    While I agree that great talent was fighting elsewhere I think the ufc definatley had the biggest group of talent.

    Guys like alverez and aoki were in Japan, the three mentioned wec guys,gil and Thompson in strikforce, then the rest were with the ufc.
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I don't have Cerrone as a top 10 fighter currently, but he was arguably softly ranked at top 10 at the point of the merger...although it would be tough, there was a LOT of active lightweight talent in Japan at that point, as well.

    But in no way did the UFC have the majority of the talent before that.

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    This was bloody elbows rankings at the time of the WEC merger. Obviously there is a UFC bias. Fighters who hadn't competed in the UFC like Cerrone and Masvidal should be in over fighters like Danzig and Stevenson but Varner.

    1 Frankie Edgar 100 UFC 1
    2 Gray Maynard 94 UFC 3
    3 Gilbert Melendez 91 Strikeforce 2
    4 Eddie Alvarez 81 Bellator 5
    5 Shinya Aoki 81 K-1 4
    6 Kenny Florian 80 UFC 6
    7 George Sotiropoulos 65 UFC 9
    8 Tatsuya Kawajiri 61 K-1 10
    9 Jim Miller 60 UFC 11
    10 Sean Sherk 51 UFC 7
    11 B.J. Penn 49 UFC 8
    12 Melvin Guillard 43 UFC 25
    13 Anthony Pettis 42 UFC 13
    14 Clay Guida 37 UFC 19
    15 Evan Dunham 32 UFC 12
    16 Takanori Gomi 30 UFC 14
    17 Ben Henderson 24 UFC 17
    18 Josh Thomson 22 Strikeforce 16
    19 Kurt Pellegrino 20 UFC 18
    20 Mizuto Hirota 18 K-1 15
    21 Mac Danizg 17 UFC 21
    22 Gesias Cavalcante 15 Strikeforce 20
    23 Joe Stevenson 13 UFC 22
    24 Matt Wiman 13 UFC 30
    25 Satoru Kitaoka 12 Pancrase 23
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Muss View Post
    Bends,pettis and Cermine considering Cerrone got his ass handed to him by name Diaz(Ufc) pettis has fought like three times since being in the ufc and got beat by clay guida of all people in his debut, Bendo has been gifted decision against frankie twice and gilt(IMO) then factor in that the ufc lightweight division had names like bj penn,frankie edgar,Kenny florian, diegobsanchez, nate Diaz,

    Who else in the WEC was top ten or close Jamie varner
    Ricardo Lamas. I'd definitely say Danny Castillo also was definitely at least close.Roller and Ndjoukawani were good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    This was bloody elbows rankings at the time of the WEC merger. Obviously there is a UFC bias. Fighters who hadn't competed in the UFC like Cerrone and Masvidal should be in over fighters like Danzig and Stevenson but Varner.

    1 Frankie Edgar 100 UFC 1
    2 Gray Maynard 94 UFC 3
    3 Gilbert Melendez 91 Strikeforce 2
    4 Eddie Alvarez 81 Bellator 5
    5 Shinya Aoki 81 K-1 4
    6 Kenny Florian 80 UFC 6
    7 George Sotiropoulos 65 UFC 9
    8 Tatsuya Kawajiri 61 K-1 10
    9 Jim Miller 60 UFC 11
    10 Sean Sherk 51 UFC 7
    11 B.J. Penn 49 UFC 8
    12 Melvin Guillard 43 UFC 25
    13 Anthony Pettis 42 UFC 13
    14 Clay Guida 37 UFC 19
    15 Evan Dunham 32 UFC 12
    16 Takanori Gomi 30 UFC 14
    17 Ben Henderson 24 UFC 17
    18 Josh Thomson 22 Strikeforce 16
    19 Kurt Pellegrino 20 UFC 18
    20 Mizuto Hirota 18 K-1 15
    21 Mac Danizg 17 UFC 21
    22 Gesias Cavalcante 15 Strikeforce 20
    23 Joe Stevenson 13 UFC 22
    24 Matt Wiman 13 UFC 30
    25 Satoru Kitaoka 12 Pancrase 23
    Those rankigns mean nothing though considering the success WEC and strikeforce had in the UFC.

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