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    During an appearance on the Sherdog Radio Network this week, “The Chosen One” spoke about how he feels the UFC’s 170-pound title picture has been watered down by rematches and how it hurts the sport of MMA as a whole.

    “I think we need to have some consistency and a rubric to make it more of a sport,” Woodley said. “I feel like [there are] guys that are legitimately putting themselves in that position to fight for the title by working so hard, and we should be given that shot, not just look at the fans saying, ‘That was a good fight. I want to see it again.’ OK, well, if you saw the NBA finals and it was a great series between the Heat and OKC, you don’t get to run it back just because it was a great last game of the series. The winner’s the winner.”

    Woodley refers to Robbie Lawler’s path to the title against Johny Hendricks at UFC 171 and what now appears to be a fast track towards a rematch with the incumbent champion, pending a clean bill of health.

    Since defeating Carlos Condit in the UFC 171 co-main event, Woodley has been on the shelf awaiting an opponent. Lawler has already defeated Jake Ellenberger and now is poised to be named the next in line for a title shot if he can top Matt Brown next month at UFC on Fox 12. The former University of Missouri Tiger takes exception to such matchmaking.

    “I think the interest is there [for a rematch]. As a fan and friend of Robbie, I think it was a great fight. When in the history of MMA did a guy that just came out of, not a quick knockout, but a five-round war, get signed up so quickly for the next fight? A fight in May, then right back in there in July,” Woodley explained. “He’s already been set up with two fights. He will fight two times by the time I fight once. I think that if I get another chance to fight someone else in between, then I am the number one contender now.”

    Lawler’s opponent for July was also addressed. Woodley questioned how a fighter coming off a significant injury -- and one who has fought lesser competition -- can be flung into the title picture before Woodley has his say.

    “I think that Matt Brown is a tough guy. I like watching him. He comes for blood and you can never count him out. He has seven wins in a row, which is huge, but none of the guys are in the top 10, which is not as huge,” Woodley said. “Before he went on that tear, he was nearly 12-11, .500 in record. I can see how all these things are playing out, but I think maybe that bout should be the next in line to fight the winner of me and Johny.”

    In the end, the 32-year old is more than aware that he can take hold of this situation with an impressive showing against MacDonald in Seattle. But Woodley suggests that if those involved in choosing the bouts continue to book based on what is best for selling pay-per-views instead of the sport as a whole, the value of championships will continue to be in question.

    “I feel like all these unwarranted rematches in our sport are making the belt not as credible as it should be.”
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    I can understand what Woodley is saying, but Robbie/Hendricks was a close fight and if he beats Brown then he has two big wins since the lose. Woodley needs to do less talking and more fighting, the win over Condit shouldn't be weighed to heavily, lets see how he does against Rory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GL Jeff View Post
    I can understand what Woodley is saying, but Robbie/Hendricks was a close fight and if he beats Brown then he has two big wins since the lose. Woodley needs to do less talking and more fighting, the win over Condit shouldn't be weighed to heavily, lets see how he does against Rory.
    I agree. I also think he's right when he says that unwarranted rematches take away from title credibility. With that said, if Robbie beats Brown, than he's earned the rematch. Wins over Ellenberger, and Brown are greater than wins over Koscheck, an injured Condit, and Rory in my opinion.

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    Ellenberger has lost three of his last five and Brown's never beat anybody. I'm a huge Lawler fan and I really don't like Woodley, but I believe he's made a thoughtful and insightful observation. His point applies to the entire UFC.
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    He has a point, but I'd argue that giving title shots to fighters coming off of a loss, or without a winning record in that division did more to hurt the credibility of the UFC titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fe1 View Post
    I also think he's right when he says that unwarranted title shots take away from title credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
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    I also think he's right when he says that unwarranted title shots take away from title credibility.
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    I think that touches on the subject that Woodley can't really get to...

    How many hits to it's credibility can the UFC take?

    There was a time when the Dan Hardy fight could be dismissed as an anomaly...but zuffa weathered it, and brought us Georges vs. Nick Diaz. Then, if that wasn't bad enough, we had the whole nonsense with UFC 151: premature announcements, a champ [alleged p4p champ] unwilling to face a MW that he had over a foot of length advantage on, then somehow another MW gets a LHW title shot--with a full camp--and then back to sonnen, with a full camp...You've got desperately bad judging--potentially the worst in sport--inconsistent-and-sometimes-dangerously-awful refereeing, PED drama and consistent misinformation; a hypervocal president who can't seem to learn from his past mistakes no matter how public they are, champions who don't fight for two year stretches...

    Honestly, if Lawler beats Brown, a title shot isn't the worst of things that could happen. Today's odds are that one of the fights will be misjudged, there will be a problem with drug testing, dana will call someone a faggot...

    whatever...

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    I really don't think anybody could dismiss the Hardy title shot as an anomaly. There were plenty of worse title shots handed out before that fight: Lesnar, Couture against Sylvia and Liddell, Serra, Leites, Lutter.
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    Agree with most except for Diaz/St Pierre. Diaz always brings it, was one of the top guys for a few years, potentially could nullify GSPs wrestling with his BJJ and arguably thought to have better striking.


    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I think that touches on the subject that Woodley can't really get to...

    How many hits to it's credibility can the UFC take?

    There was a time when the Dan Hardy fight could be dismissed as an anomaly...but zuffa weathered it, and brought us Georges vs. Nick Diaz. Then, if that wasn't bad enough, we had the whole nonsense with UFC 151: premature announcements, a champ [alleged p4p champ] unwilling to face a MW that he had over a foot of length advantage on, then somehow another MW gets a LHW title shot--with a full camp--and then back to sonnen, with a full camp...You've got desperately bad judging--potentially the worst in sport--inconsistent-and-sometimes-dangerously-awful refereeing, PED drama and consistent misinformation; a hypervocal president who can't seem to learn from his past mistakes no matter how public they are, champions who don't fight for two year stretches...

    Honestly, if Lawler beats Brown, a title shot isn't the worst of things that could happen. Today's odds are that one of the fights will be misjudged, there will be a problem with drug testing, dana will call someone a faggot...

    whatever...

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