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    Mark Bocek announces retirement
    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...es-retirement/

    I'm retiring from pro mma.I would like to thank everyone who has helped me and supported me throughout this journey. Onto the next chapter.
    ó Mark Bocek (@MarkBocek) August 6, 2014
    And if you want beef, then bring the ruckus

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    Mark Bocek: ‘I'm not interested in competing against fighters on PED's any longer'
    http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/6/...ghters-on-peds
    "I've gone through a lot of injuries. The sport is highly evolved and I'm not interested in competing against fighters on PED's any longer," the Tristar product told MMAFighting.com's Ariel Helwani, as reported on UFC Tonight.
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    Well this sucks. I was kind of hoping to see him on the Halifax card.

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    Nooooooooooooooo!!!

    I'm mostly sad because I never got to see Bruce Buffer announce him as 'The Ginja' which was the nickname I've been suggesting to him by email for the last 5 years.

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    Mark Bocek 'You can't call PED abuse cheating when everyone is doing it'
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/10...ne-is-doing-it
    Bocek cites rampant PED abuse as his major cause for concern and ultimate retirement. In a recent interview with MMA Junkie, he discussed the problems the sport has with cheaters.

    "I'm a realistic person, and I look at it like I could do all the PEDs on the planet and still be able to compete with guys, but if I don't, it's just not going to happen," Bocek told MMAjunkie. "I'd rather go out like this with a good memory of the sport. I didn't want to leave with a sour feeling on the sport, with a loss, with hating the sport. So I guess the difference between me and everyone is I'm just a little more realistic. In the end, not everybody becomes the champion."

    "I think it's worse than people realize," Bocek said. "I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the way things are going, you kind of deserve to lose if you're not on PEDs nowadays. I used to think of it as cheating, but you can't call it cheating when everyone is doing it. You go in there and lose to someone on PEDs, it's like, what did you expect? Did you think you were going to knock out some guy on PEDs in the highest MMA league in the world? People get away with cheating in the Olympics, which has much stricter testing than in the UFC, so you can imagine what people get away with in the UFC.

    "I can't put numbers on it. I've trained at the top five MMA camps on the planet, but I'd never mention any names. There are genetic freaks out there. There are always exceptions. But look at Tour de France. If you want a clean guy, let's go down to No. 28. There are fighters that don't use, but the way the sport's highly evolved now, the clean guys are getting farther and fewer between."

    In addition to the ever-increasing problems with PED abuse in the sport, Mark says that the physical demands of weight cutting were also taking a toll on him. He feels that the sport could do with more weight divisions, especially considering athletes, including himself, sometimes make cuts that are on average between 30-35 pounds.

    "Weight-cutting played a major role," Bocek said. "The sport could use more weight classes. Getting down to 155, that's a disaster for me. That's 30, 35 pounds every single time, and I basically have to get on the brink of hospitalization and then compete optimally 24 hours later. I could never drop to a lower weight class, 145, or I would die. If I fought at 170 - I train with Georges, and I train with Rory (MacDonald) - I know how big those guys are. I feel tiny compared to them."

    The final component in his retirement decision came down to a lack of motivation to fight as much as he used to. He points to recently retired, former UFC Lightweight champion, Jens Pulver as an example of how not to end an MMA career, stating,

    "With everything that has happened, my motivation dropped a little," Bocek said. "Once your motivation drops, you're stupid if you take an MMA fight. I wanted to end my career in the UFC. I didn't want to lose a fight, get cut, fight again in a lower show and lose, then retire hating MMA. I always wanted to be a champion, but I'm not going to sit around to be a stepping stone for others."

    "I didn't want to fight in some small shows and end up like Jens (Pulver)," Bocek said. "I really looked up to him, and he didn't have to take those fights, but in the end, what else is there for a fighter? A lot of guys in MMA don't have a life outside of it. You see guys like Jens fighting when they shouldn't be fighting. I hope that type of thing doesn't happen to more fighters because they put all their eggs in one basket, and in the end, only one person gets to become world champion. So many elements have to sync harmoniously together to get that championship athlete."

    So what happens now? What does a retired MMA fighter do after devoting all of their adult life to their craft? Bocek says he'll most likely open a gym...or start dropping applications at McDonald's.

    "It's tough since there's not much for fighters out there," Bocek said. "I'll either make a gym work, or I'll have to start applying at McDonald's. These past 15 years when everyone is acquiring their degrees, I'm training and fighting. My only degree is in jiu-jitsu and fighting, so if a gym doesn't work out for me, I'm in a lot of trouble."
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    I hope Bocek can find success and happiness in whatever he does.

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    Wow he is coming off like a whiny bitch here.

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    I'm super disappointed by this and wish him well. I hope he keeps on competing in grappling at least! Always enjoyed watching him fight even when I was cringing in his fight with Danzig.
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    Mark Bocek says UFCís commitment to inexperienced women fighters contributed to his decision to retire

    Monday, Mark Bocek appeared on The MMA Hour and detailed the primary reasons that he decided to step away from fighting after a successful fighting career at 32 years old. The Canadianís timing was peculiar in that he was coming off a victory against Mike De La Torre at the TUF Nations finale in Quebec City this past April.

    It turns out there were many reasons -- beginning with the "rampant" problem MMA has with performance enhancing drugs -- that went into Bocekís decision to retire. And on Monday, given the platform, the Canadian fighter was more than willing to get some things off his chest.

    Besides the PED epidemic, Bocek cited a fear of brain damage after years in the gym sparring and exacting a toll, as well as the UFCís (and fanís) disenchantment for grapplers, who are often relegated to the undercard when they donít put on a show. Bocek, a jiu-jitsu practitioner with wrestling roots, fit the mold of his discontent. He also pointed to the dilution of the product in general, saying that there were so many UFC events these days that he couldnít keep up.

    "In the end, the fans control a lot," he said. "It depends on what they want to see, and what they want to see is stand-up, striking, blood and chaos. So thatís what they UFC is doing, which is kind of shove it down everyoneís throat as much as possible because thereís a big interest for MMA right now. But me being a fan first, itís lost a little of its appeal to me with all these shows, three or four shows a month. I donít even know whatís what anymore. Right now I just watch the big fights."

    Towards the end of his nearly half-hour long interview with Ariel Helwani, Bocek strayed into other concerns -- such as his inability to deal with defeat very well, and womenís MMA, which he believes tends more towards beauty and aesthetics than depth of skill.

    "Iím realistic enough to see the direction [MMA]ís going in," he said. "You know, striking, stand-up, female MMA, thatís the direction itís heading in. Itís difficult for an obese womenís MMA fighter to get in, but if she has different skills and has cool bikini shots, she can get in."

    Asked for clarity on it, Bocek elaborated.

    "Iím just saying that the direction of MMA and MMA fans, theyíre kind of pushing the female MMAÖyou know, Ronda [Rousey] technically the pound-for-pound best fighter and, weíll put experienced, accomplished male fighters on undercards. But weíll put females that started training last year on co-main events. That direction was kind of the persuasion that forced me to get out. Iím not a female, you know?

    "But thatís the direction itís heading. Girls like Ronda, people know who that is over Cain Velasquez. I think womenís MMA is great, I just didnít think it should be compared to maleís MMA, just because I think itís different. And I have nothing against womenís MMA like people think, all I was getting at was, if you want to do womenís MMA thatís great, why not just have a womenís MMA league? The events changed for me once they were having female MMA events where you had someone who had been doing judo their whole life, say, fighting a Marine who started training two years ago. Thatís not the same talent of depth. Itís not too difficult to confuse people, because letís face it, thereís a sucker born every minute, right?"

    In other words, Dana Whiteís pre-Rousey concerns about the relative dearth of talent in womenís MMA -- in addition to the lack of experience therein -- took away from the overall product for Bocek, who steps away with an 8-5 overall record in the UFC.

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/14...women-fighters

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    Bocek is crying so much he is pushing me to want to fighter bash a bit. I had to stop myself.
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