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    Default Recently retired B.J. Penn would 'never hire Mike Dolce again for anything'

    Recently retired B.J. Penn would 'never hire Mike Dolce again for anything'
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    Speaking to BJPenn.com (via Bloody Elbow), "Baby J" opened up about the strategy, his loss to Edgar and the decision to not work with famed dietician, Mike Dolce, ever again.

    "That boxing style, I've been using that for the past year and a half, two years, and we had a bunch of training partners come in and I did well with everybody. The first training partners we brought in were Lowen Tynanes; the current ONE FC Champ, Russell Doane came in and then, after that, Dominick Cruz came in. After Dominick Cruz came in Nik Lentz came in, Mirsad Bektic and Nik Lentz came in together, and we had great success with everybody in training and sparring. You know, when you do something new you're rewarded if you win and you're criticized when you lose. I know that's part of the game. As far as how we were doing in training, using the style that we used in the fight, we were doing great. We had no problems training with anybody. There was nobody that just came in and wiped us out or anything like that, so, you know? That's about all I can say about that."

    As far as his decision to drop down to the Featherweight division, Penn says he doesn't really have any regrets.

    He explains:

    "I keep going back about a lot of things ... was it even smart to go down to 145 pounds in the first place? Were you going to have the energy all sucked out, you know? I haven't been to 145 in about 18 years, but besides that this whole last year of my life, I've been just hanging around 160 pounds, trying to watch my weight after the Rory MacDonald fight. I just wanted to watch my weight for general health for myself and my family, and I just stayed around 160 pounds. So, you know, that's what I sparred at, I sparred at that weight, at 158 pounds, so, you know, that's just how it all went down."

    When it came to the weight-cutting process, Penn enlisted the services of Mike Dolce, a man who has helped plenty of other MMA stars reached their desired weight prior to fight night.

    And though Dolce did help Penn hit the 145-pound mark with no problem, the Hawaiian says he will never hire Dolce for anything again.

    "Actually, cutting the weight down was pretty easy for me. I stayed disciplined. I didn't go out and mess around. I'm actually more disciplined than people think or what they give me credit for. The weight cut, of course, is never going to be easy. Going down to a weight that you've never been down to in your life, but besides that I stayed disciplined and I made the weight. One thing that I can say is that I stayed disciplined and I made the weight. As far as Mike Dolce goes; I would never hire him again for anything."

    When asked to elaborate, Penn simply asked to move to the next question.
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    Its not so much he doesn't like Dolce; its because Dolce was hardly around. He had other obligations so BJ didn't like that he wasn't there watching him. He basically just gave him a plan to stick to with minimal supervision. BJ was under the impression he hired Dolce to be in his camp and there 24/7 making sure he stuck to his diet and provide the food while all he does is focus on training.

    He took this training camp pretty serious. He trained down in the valley, had no distractions, didn't even have electricity. I thought he was going to come in unstoppable.

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    Who knows, maybe Penn paid a lot of money expecting some miracle diet and Dolce just put him on a diet that BJ already knew.

    Or maybe there were some personal issues between them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    Who knows, maybe Penn paid a lot of money expecting some miracle diet and Dolce just put him on a diet that BJ already knew.

    Or maybe there were some personal issues between them.
    I believe if you read one post before yours you will hear an opinion that apparently had inside knowledge on the situation.

    That fight was hard for me to watch. Hope penn still competes in some grappling tourneys. Would love to see him at a metamoris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU View Post
    I believe if you read one post before yours you will hear an opinion that apparently had inside knowledge on the situation.

    That fight was hard for me to watch. Hope penn still competes in some grappling tourneys. Would love to see him at a metamoris.
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    If BJ hadn't hooked up with Dolce, he'd have destroyed Frankie. Poor BJ just can't catch a break, everybody else is always at fault, screwing him up.

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    I didn't catch the part where he made Dolce responsible for anything other than making him make weight, that was what Dolce was for, right? ... After the fight he took full responsibility for that ass whooping he took and didn't put it on anybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIZjitsZOU View Post
    I believe if you read one post before yours you will hear an opinion that apparently had inside knowledge on the situation.

    That fight was hard for me to watch. Hope penn still competes in some grappling tourneys. Would love to see him at a metamoris.
    Yeah my cousin has been a punching dummy for BJ's camps for a while. He grew up with BJ and his brothers in Hilo. He teaches lessons at the BJ Penn UFC gym they have out here now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    If BJ hadn't hooked up with Dolce, he'd have destroyed Frankie. Poor BJ just can't catch a break, everybody else is always at fault, screwing him up.
    Maybe BJ deserves that for all the excuses him (and mostly his fans) have made in the past, but he doesn't really come off as making excuses in this one.

    If anything it seems like he's accepting full responsibility in this one. Kinda a 180 for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWIFTboy View Post
    If anything it seems like he's accepting full responsibility in this one. Kinda a 180 for him.
    I'd like to know the excuses he himself has made after losing besides the greasing that makes this a 180 for him? If i recall, he has more than one loss.

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