enough with the good record bs, couture doesnt have the best record and would smoke almost anyone at lhw including frankin. when jackson got subbed that fight did a lot for him even though he lost, he was slamin saka all around the place, his hands werernt nearly as good back then, he'd probably ko saka now. and rampage getting ko'ed and attacked with vicious knees by a great brazillain muy thai fighter? hmmm... did that not just happen to franklin? and in the wand fights, he actaully made very good fights, he didnt totally get domilished until towards the end of the fight, i dont think i can say that about the shogun fight however.