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Racism is on a different level.
In this (the mma) community, yes.

Moraly they are identical though (if you really do disagree I'd be interested to hear your reasoning). Maybe we're all so used to the homophobia by now that it just seems that way.

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i agree with luis
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Right and that is exactly my point. When you use the expression "that's gay" you are speaking negatively about something. That expression itself is disapproval of homosexuality. It is that attitude that I think we need to change as a society. Think about it. What if you said, "that's black" anytime anyone said something stupid?
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This is just a suggestion, but I have noticed several people in the forums using homosexual remarks in a degrading fashion. If the rules are going to forbid racist and religious comments, I think they should also forbid comments about sexual preference. Of course I do not suggest that people be banned for this, only that it should be discouraged. I am not gay, but I think as a society it is important for us to evolve past stereotypical attitudes and our vernacular is an important part of that.

I see your point and agree with you on one hand but on the other hand I just don't care. I'm not trying to be a dick I really just think a lot of ppl are too sensitive and I get sick of all of the crying about racial issues. I could care less it someone calls me a honkey or cracker but I guess that's just me and my laid back attitude.

But like I said on one hand I do agree with you. It is imo hypocritical to not allow words like the "N" bomb, Jew, or spic but allow fag or gay at the same time.
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Right and that is exactly my point. When you use the expression "that's gay" you are speaking negatively about something. That expression itself is disapproval of homosexuality. It is that attitude that I think we need to change as a society. Think about it. What if you said, "that's black" anytime anyone said something stupid?
when i refer to something as gay it is usually gay and gay people like gay things so why would they be offended by someone calling something gay for example if a shirt makes my buddy look gay, i will tell him, "that shirts gay" does that mean a gay man is going to be offended by a shirt he probably likes?
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when i refer to something as gay it is usually gay and gay people like gay things so why would they be offended by someone calling something gay for example if a shirt makes my buddy look gay, i will tell him, "that shirts gay" does that mean a gay man is going to be offended by a shirt he probably likes?
Now go through what you said replacing 'gay' with 'black'. Then try and make a decent point.
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Now go through what you said replacing 'gay' with 'black'. Then try and make a decent point.
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when i refer to something as gay it is usually gay and gay people like gay things so why would they be offended by someone calling something gay for example if a shirt makes my buddy look gay, i will tell him, "that shirts gay" does that mean a gay man is going to be offended by a shirt he probably likes?
The whole idea that you can "look gay" IS stereotypical.
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The whole idea that you can "look gay" IS stereotypical.

a steriotype is still a steriotype


if i where a pink shirt with a rainbow on it what would you be thinking about me?
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I don't think this is that big of a deal. Racism is on a different level. I say all the time "that's gay" and shit like that and no one thinks nothing of it. I think when people use the word 'fag' it's usually meaning an idiot or something along those lines unless the conversation is about gay people. The 'n' word can mean nothing else, it's a strickly racist word, unless spoken in slang in which it would have to end with an a. BTW i have a gay uncle who came out of the closet like 3 or 4 years ago, i must say i was a bit disappointed probably due to shock mostly (he's 43), but gay people don't bother me at all and i have nothing against therefore don't bash them but i still use the words only with a different meaning.
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