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[Jza]

*On a sidenote what I basically mean is stop the blind hate posts*

The last line of the first paragraph, which to me would tell everyone who was reading it that all I meant was bring in sone suggestions on posting. Now if you didn't feel like reading the whle post fair enough it was at your discretion.

[Legend]

Originally Posted by Jza

Stop with all the roid rage shit, if they were on roids they wouldn't be in this sport, no sport actually allows roids so in general it just doesn't happen.

Very incorrect. No matter what the sport, no matter what the testing is that sport, there will always be guys looking for a short cut ie steriods. Tim Sylvia was caught on roids a few years ago and was stripped of the HW title bc of it. MTV had an episode of True Life documenting ppl on steriods. And you know what? One of them was an MMA fighter. He had to be tested before his fight but he stopped taking them about a month before the fight and cleaned his system out. He tested clean and was allowed to fight. If the steriods are not in your system when your tested then there is nothing the State Athletic Commission can do to you. Now im not saying i think a bunch of MMA fighters are on roids but to say if just cant happin is very naive.

[Jza]

Originally Posted by thelegendrvb

Very incorrect. No matter what the sport, no matter what the testing is that sport, there will always be guys looking for a short cut ie steriods. Tim Sylvia was caught on roids a few years ago and was stripped of the HW title bc of it. MTV had an episode of True Life documenting ppl on steriods. And you know what? One of them was an MMA fighter. He had to be tested before his fight but he stopped taking them about a month before the fight and cleaned his system out. He tested clean and was allowed to fight. If the steriods are not in your system when your tested then there is nothing the State Athletic Commission can do to you. Now im not saying i think a bunch of MMA fighters are on roids but to say if just cant happin is very naive.

True, a slight blanket statement I suppose. The gist is that on average a general fighter isn't on roids as they can be detected, if suspicions arise there are other ways to test for drug abuse which will show or longer than a month. So yes I accept that the statement was technically wrong however the point that most fighters are not on roids most of the time, and even then without taking them for a month they would have only partial benefits to a fighter.

[binimac]

sylvia wasent striped of his title, he got his fuckin arm broke by frank mir
check the facts

[Legend]

Originally Posted by binimac

sylvia wasent striped of his title, he got his fuckin arm broke by frank mir
check the facts

No after Sylvia defeated Gan McGee he tested positive for roids. He was then stripped of the title. Then he fought Mir for the vancant title and then had his arm broken. So why dont you check the facts.

[killerinstinct]

The legends right binimac.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by thelegendrvb

No after Sylvia defeated Gan McGee he tested positive for roids. He was then stripped of the title. Then he fought Mir for the vancant title and then had his arm broken. So why dont you check the facts.

Accurate, thanks for saving me the trouble legend. I was coming back to this thread to post the same.

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by Jza

without taking them for a month they would have only partial benefits to a fighter.

Total nonsence.

Roids allow you to train at 120% (literally) 6 days a week. That is a huge benefit to both skill and conditioning obviously, regardless of all the other beneficial effects.

Also, there are many drugs that can't be detected, or that can be taken closer to the fight than 1 month without remaining in the system. The technology is now at a level where the benefits can be maintained post cycle anyway with the assistance of legal and borderline supplements.

Why do you and Binimac seem insistant that this problem doesn't exist?

Do you actually know any pro fighters? I'm guessing not. [/RANT]

git.