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09-24-2009, 09:14 AM
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I thought Wes had won for sure when they said they had a decision. No way he lost the first round. I can see giving the second round to James because he didn't seem like he was quite as close to passing out from exhaustion.
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09-24-2009, 10:58 AM
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honestly, I think the thing that got James the win was the very end of the fight...when the horn sounded both guys were clearly exhausted...Rashad noticed this and IMMEDIATELY screamed at James to get up while Wes chose to lay there and look defeated...James went to the corner to prepare for round 3 while Wes chose to sit on his ass in the middle of the ring, looking defeated...I think this sealed up the round for James...good coaching by Rashad...that being said, Wes CLEARLY won the first round and the fight should have gone to the third...too bad Wes had ZERO cardio or he could have really made some noise on the show...and how obvious was it that Kimbo was gonna be in the next fight...they usually don't show the fight announcement until 5-10 minutes into the next show...should be an awesome fight
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09-24-2009, 11:30 AM
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It showed to me that McSweeny looked like garbage has little power in his punches....but he can take some shots. He doesn't look to finish his opponent when he is hunched over about to collapse which was so lame. He should have been deducted point there.
Wes threw everything at McSweeny, and took some shots while throwing haymakers. He dominated the standup (except for the leg kicks) and showed no respect for McSweeny's standup.
I called it first round for Wes....but what lost him the fight was the running out of energy. I am not sure if the judges are scoring the fight itself....or who they think is the most fight ready to fight again.
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09-24-2009, 02:04 PM
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That fight really sucked, definitely one of the worse fight I have ever seen.
That big guy was exhausted almost all the match and James instead of finish him, he was just waiting. There were some nice kicks and punches but overall that fight really sucked, and I actually think that James won that fight, IMO he was a little bit less bad than the other guy.
Now, about Kimbo vs Nelson, I think Kimbo is going to KTFO that fat guy.
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09-24-2009, 04:44 PM
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For those that think Shiver won, you need to objectively judge on the following criteria:
-Clean Strikes
-Effective Grappling
-Octagon Control
-Effective Aggressiveness
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09-24-2009, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mindwarp For those that think Shiver won, you need to objectively judge on the following criteria:
-Clean Strikes
-Effective Grappling
-Octagon Control
-Effective Aggressiveness | In the clean strikes and aggressivness James clearly was better, in the ground the other guy dominated, he even tried some submissions, about the octagon control they both sucked, one was exhausted and the other was just waiting.
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09-24-2009, 10:49 PM
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Second round, everybody lost. That was f/n pathetic. I thought Rashad was going to explode lol, Rampage was pretty patient with that lame ass performance also. Seriously, how the hell did these guys make it this far with absolutely zero cardio?
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09-25-2009, 01:56 PM
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That was indeed one of the worst fights I have ever seen, I also disagreed with the judges, I scored it 18-18
That fight needed a little japanese man in the middle to pull out a couple of yellow cards! not steve mazzagatti congratulating them on a good fight, what the hell was he watching???
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09-25-2009, 08:19 PM
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gota agree with the majority here, Wes won the first round hands down, anyonw who disagrees needs to watch it again... and again.. and again lol. 2nd round was hard to tell, but i could probably JUST give it to james... ONLY because he landed a shitload of leg kicks (they count remember) and wes didnt do too much. should have gone to a third... those judges are just fuckin stupid
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09-26-2009, 10:46 AM
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both those guys don't deserve to win. Anyone who doesn't have the cardio for 2 rounds shouldn't be in the UFC. That was horrible to watch those guys gassed out during the fight.
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