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[goodtimes]

idk why people are complaining that Nelson didn't hit harder, the crucifix position is about completely controlling your opponent and making him unable to defend himself, the downside is that the fighter is unable to generate much force. People should make no mistake about it, Nelson was working on the ground with getting crucifix position in his mind, and he transitioned to it nearly effortlessly both times. It was total domination once the fight hit the ground, and Kimbo only landed a few shots on the feet, Nelson had good head movement and avoided any serious damage, it only looked like he ate maybe one big uppercut.

[Renny]

kimbo's ground game is lacking....i think he couldve stayed standing if he had waited til roy pushed him to the fence before throwing that knee....i personally think he shouldve kept kicking roy to throw him off his game plan....

[wonderbee]

I just think it is a sad day for the UFC when Danas new business ideas are hand-me-downs from Gary Shaw. It is actually kind of sad to see so many of you actually believed that Kimbo was going to win that fight and even sadder that it appeared as if Dana thought the same thing. I also don’t understand what was so arrogant about Roy Nelson. I think winning a fight that was hyped as the biggest fight in tuf history was probably a big deal for Roy and his carrier as an mma fighter.

P.S. Don’t believe the hype.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by wonderbee

I just think it is a sad day for the UFC when Danas new business ideas are hand-me-downs from Gary Shaw. It is actually kind of sad to see so many of you actually believed that Kimbo was going to win that fight and even sadder that it appeared as if Dana thought the same thing. I also don’t understand what was so arrogant about Roy Nelson. I think winning a fight that was hyped as the biggest fight in tuf history was probably a big deal for Roy and his carrier as an mma fighter.

P.S. Don’t believe the hype.

Heh, it is kind of funny how it has been hyped as the biggest fight in TUF history and then Dana badmouths Nelson for being happy he won, playing it off like it wasn't a big deal. But like someone said earlier, TUF is not exactly the high end content the UFC puts out. If this fight was hyped as a main event on a PPV, people definitely would be flipping out, but as a sideshow freak fight it's ok.

And ya, anyone who thought Kimbo was going to KO Nelson no problem definitely bought way too much into the hype.

[Rhino]

Originally Posted by Rockx

I think Dana is upset that his meal ticket got his face stamped in the opening round.

Ignorant garbage usual Dana bashing statement... I think Dana was more mad that Roy was acting like he just won a belt and not that he dominated a fighter he was supposed to crush grappling... Kimbo is an experiment not a meal ticket... Penn, GSP, A.Silva, and Lesnar are meal tickets... this is purely a dude that is on TUF to bring in other more Boxing oriented fans who prob hardly ever watch MMA but have seen every Kimbo vid online

[MetalHead75]

It really doesn't matter who did what in this fight....they would both get eaten alive in the heavyweight ranks of the UFC.

Kimbo doesn't have the tools to fight in MMA, and I don't think he can ever learn them before his age completely catches up to him. Beating up crackheads in their backyard and knocking out a washed up ex-UFC fighter has been good to Kimbo thus far...but I have a feeling this is the end of the road for him, at least as a mainstream fighter.

And Roy, well he's just completely laughable for how much shit he talks. He's definitely his own biggest fan. Sure, he has a little bit of MMA skills....enough to win a heavyweight title in a third rate MMA organization, and enough to squeak by a guy who's as green as Kimbo....but could he hang in the UFC? I say hell no. I laughed my ass off when he was talking about winning the competition and staying with the UFC for four or five years. Even if he does manage to squeak by the rest of the fighters and win the competition...I'd give him three fights before he gets embarrassed in the UFC's heavyweight division and gets the boot by Dana.

All in all, it was a very disappointing fight for me last night. I didn't care who won...I just wanted to see a good fight and perhaps get a glimpse of a possible new UFC heavyweight prospect. I pretty much knew that wouldn't be Kimbo....but Roy definitely let me down. I thought that The Ultimate Fighter was supposed to be about standing out from the rest of the fighters and proving that you deserve a shot in the UFC....not about doing just enough to get a win. A win is still a win no doubt, but I don't care what anybody says...it just seems to me that when you have the UFC president and owner sitting right there in front of you, you bust your ass and perform at 100% of your ability so that maybe.....oh, I don't know....you could impress somebody besides yourself? I know that Roy's just trying to win the competition...and maybe we're wrong...maybe that was his best fighting.....but what happens now when he doesn't win? Does he really think that Dana's gonna call him up?

Roy: "Hello?"

Dana: "Hey Roy...It's Dana White. I know you looked like shit on the Ultimate Fighter....but we're running out of guys for Brock to pound on.....so are you free? By the way, I got that double whopper with cheese you wanted.....and I remembered no pickles. And If you sign right now...I'll even throw in some fries and a diet coke....whattya say?"

[gspfan09]

Originally Posted by COkid

My money is on Kimbo fighting again before the season is over. My theory is that with Kimbo being the ratings hound it doesn't make sense for the UFC to have him fight and lose on the third episode and then hope people continue to tune in to the other fighters who they don't know. I just think this isn't the last time we'll see him fight.

Are you saying that the TUF show is "fixed"? sure sounds like it.......

[Malice]

Originally Posted by MetalHead75

not about doing just enough to get a win.

He took kimbo down, mounted, crucified and pounded his face in twice...eventually getting a stop. How is that doing "just enough to get the win"?

In any other fight, that would be called domination, shoot gaining mount is domination, crucifixion is a domination hold.

[lordpyro]

Originally Posted by Rockx

Again with the love taps?

What about the fact that Kimbo was laying there, doing absolutely nothing? Why are you critiquing Roys punch impact when at least he was doing SOMETHING?

I didn't say Kimbo deserved to win. You are right, all he did was lay there. No disagreement there.

I didn't feel the need to critque Kimbo because that would be rather like beating a dead horse. We knew he had no ground game. I didn't expect him to win.

I disagree with the rules. You shouldn't be able to win by laying on top of someone and throwing bullshit punches that do no damage. ALOT of UFC fights end that way and I personally don't care for it.

Roy dominated Kimbo, but, it wasn't an impressive victory. If he would've took a chance, postured up, and threw some bombs, I wouldn't have anything to say.

I have the same reaction to all fights that end like that. I hate guys that lay and pray and throw little pitter patter punches just to get enough points to win. If you're gonna punch then have some bad intentions.

[Malice]

Originally Posted by lordpyro

I didn't say Kimbo deserved to win. You are right, all he did was lay there. No disagreement there.

I disagree with the rules. You shouldn't be able to win by laying on top of someone and throwing bullshit punches that do no damage. ALOT of UFC fights end that way and I personally don't care for it.

Roy dominated Kimbo, but, it wasn't an impressive victory. If he would've took a chance, postured up, and threw some bombs, I wouldn't have anything to say.

I have the same reaction to all fights that end like that. I hate guys that lay and pray and throw little pitter patter punches just to get enough points to win. If you're gonna punch then have some bad intentions.

How did he lay n pray? He got mount....Crucified him.... beat his ass....that's not LnP.

geez folks! this is craziness.