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[Malice]

Here we go with the personal insults, I knew this couldn't remain civil for long lol...

Anyways If Mount + Crucifixion + Fatness + Punches to the head and face while opponent is just laying there, is NOT domination...then what is?

Fights end like this all the time on PPV.. Hughes vs BJ 2 is one example.

Originally Posted by MetalHead75

It's pretty funny how when Brock hits Mir on the top of the head during their first fight....they get stood back up and Brock gets penalized. But on the Ultimate Fighter you can do it continually and finish the fight that way? I know it pretty much comes down to the referee's discretion, but not only did Roy finish the fight that way, how in the hell did he manage to attract several nut huggers here in the process? Unless you guys have just started to watch UFC, then it's understandable.

I realize that what Roy did would be a good move, if you don't have a 50 pound beer gut in your way. But since he does have a 50 pound beer gut and he needed to use that to get Kimbo's head pinned, he could not throw any damaging punches and Kimbo was in no danger of getting hurt. But Roy knew Herb Dean would have no choice but to stop it, he was obviously not very confident about the rest of his ground game, and all he wanted was the win so he just kept at it. I have no clue where anybody gets "Oh, he pounded his face in!" I guess it's just people's hate for Kimbo getting the better of them....either that or they think the top of Kimbo's head looks like a face. But to say Roy beat him in dominating fashion....come on guys...especially Rockx....do Roy's nuts really smell that good to where you're gonna ignore what a good fight looks like anymore? Sure, in view of the rule books he beat him by TKO....but the to fans who have been watching this shit since day one.....it was a joke.

And to anybody who thinks otherwise, let me ask you this....Would you mind paying to see some fat ass lay on top of somebody else and pretty much just massage the top of their head? If so, we obviously watch MMA for totally different reasons.....

p.s. asshole

[hopkinsrage]

I do not believe that Dana reacted that way because he sees major profit potential in Kimbo Slice. I think he acted that way because of the actions of Roy Nelson. This guy is acting like he is a major player and gifted God in MMA. He has shown nothing but arrogance since the first episode and honestly believes that he is a top caliber fighter. I have not seen anything thus far on TUF , or even any of his fights from the past that shows me he is a potential star at all.

[lordpyro]

Originally Posted by Rockx

^^ Hey fair enough, but you should just say you don't like it then. Not all of this Lay N Pray, Love taps bullshit...

Personally I would rather not have Kimbo get hurt, so I think the stop was fine. Those of you who wish physical damage upon him have some serious malice in your soul!

I agree, I don't want to see anyone get hurt. But, at the same time, I don't think people should be rewarded for doing just enough to get by.

[lordpyro]

Originally Posted by MetalHead75

It's pretty funny how when Brock hits Mir on the top of the head during their first fight....they get stood back up and Brock gets penalized. But on the Ultimate Fighter you can do it continually and finish the fight that way? I know it pretty much comes down to the referee's discretion, but not only did Roy finish the fight that way, how in the hell did he manage to attract several nut huggers here in the process? Unless you guys have just started to watch UFC, then it's understandable.

I realize that what Roy did would be a good move, if you don't have a 50 pound beer gut in your way. But since he does have a 50 pound beer gut and he needed to use that to get Kimbo's head pinned, he could not throw any damaging punches and Kimbo was in no danger of getting hurt. But Roy knew Herb Dean would have no choice but to stop it, he was obviously not very confident about the rest of his ground game, and all he wanted was the win so he just kept at it. I have no clue where anybody gets "Oh, he pounded his face in!" I guess it's just people's hate for Kimbo getting the better of them....either that or they think the top of Kimbo's head looks like a face. But to say Roy beat him in dominating fashion....come on guys...especially Rockx....do Roy's nuts really smell that good to where you're gonna ignore what a good fight looks like anymore? Sure, in view of the rule books he beat him by TKO....but the to fans who have been watching this shit since day one.....it was a joke.

And to anybody who thinks otherwise, let me ask you this....Would you mind paying to see some fat ass lay on top of somebody else and pretty much just massage the top of their head? If so, we obviously watch MMA for totally different reasons.....

Dude, I think you can probably make your point without being a dick. I agree that it wasn't a good fight, but, you don't need to insult someone to make you point.

All you did was nullify any truth to your statement by looking like an asshole.

[MetalHead75]

Punches to the face? Were you even watching the same fight as everybody else?

And lol, it doesn't matter if Roy got paid or not....he doesn't give a shit about putting on a show, just getting the win no matter how cheap. This was the entire subject that everybody was posting about as you went from post to post trying to defend him. Nobody ever said to take away the win from him, just that it was cheap. THAT is why people are so pissed about this fight, yes it was free, but what happens if by some chance Roy becomes the Ultimate Fighter? What has Roy shown so far that will make people pay to see him fight? Obviously he's got your vote after showing his belly skills....but as far as the rest of us who just like to watch good fights....we don't want to pay to see that shit. People have the right to complain, and they will....why can't you just deal with it? lol

[Pasha K]

Well I really cant understand how Kimbo said that he was impressed by his performance, and how Dana also can say that they were all impressed, well to be honest I was also impressed by Kimbos performance, because I thought he would do the things much much better. Damn, he sucks, he just box, other than that he sucks, in the ground he sucks, Nelson was doing with him all he wanted and without any effort.

Before the fight I really thought that Kimbo has improved a lot, but I didnt see any difference between yesterday and a year ago, yes he landed 1 or 2 nice punches, but other than that he didnt do anything. Its unbelievable how Dana protects him.

About the hitting of a little girl, I think Danawas just pissed because his TUF superstar failed big time.

Fuck, after all the talking I really thought that Kimbo has improved a lot, and I didnt see any improvement, at least on the ground. Maybe go to boxing would be a bit better for him, because in MMA anyone who taked him to the ground will finish the fight.

By the way I am not saying that nelson made a good fight, I really think he would not last a round against any Top fighter.

[MetalHead75]

Originally Posted by lordpyro

Dude, I think you can probably make your point without being a dick. I agree that it wasn't a good fight, but, you don't need to insult someone to make you point.

All you did was nullify any truth to your statement by looking like an asshole.

LOL he's bouncing around from post to post trying to argue with ANYBODY who has a different view on the fight than him, and then backing up his arguments with shit that didn't even happen. So yes, he drew his own target on his chest and I was the first to fire. And my statement was an opinion...so I could care less if you or anybody else sees any truth to it. If people don't want to get insulted, maybe they they should just stay the hell out of other people's posts and quit trying to dissect their opinions? They are aftererall...opinions. Hell, I've been called an asshole twice and a dick once in this thread, do you hear me crying?

[VimyRidge]

Originally Posted by Rockx

Well then we just will have to disagree, because for me although he didn't win in a flash KO or submission...Roy owned the entire fight.

Kimbo did nada.

Roy took him down, got mount, crucified and pounded his face in twice.

Nothing more dominating than that. What else did you folks expect? Kimbo to come out with a broken eye socket or broken nose?

Gotta agree with Rockx on this one, Roy owned Kimbo. The fact that Roy said before the fight what he was going to do and did it makes it even more impressive. He got him in a crucifix not once, but twice. Not many guys tell you exactly how they are going to beat there opponent and then do it.

The thing I thought was classic is how Roy said to his team before the fight that counting makes it obvious how many unanswered shots the fighter is taking and forces the ref to stop the fight. In the first crucifix there was no counting and no stoppage and the 2nd time his corner started counting and it was stopped.

[joeyP]

Originally Posted by lordpyro

I agree, I don't want to see anyone get hurt. But, at the same time, I don't think people should be rewarded for doing just enough to get by.

Are you kidding? This is the Ultimate Fighter. If you have watched the show in your life, you'll know one thing: The point is to get to the finals with the path of least resistance

Why would he try to win in a way that he might not have been able to? The fight he had was perfect, he took no damage and dominated the entire thing.

Also, the punches he was throwing, yes they were whimpy. However, on the van ride, he was explaining to his teammates a UFC rule. The fight will be stopped if a fighter is not intelligently defending himself. Was Kimbo defending himself? No.

[lordpyro]

Originally Posted by joeyP

Are you kidding? This is the Ultimate Fighter. If you have watched the show in your life, you'll know one thing: The point is to get to the finals with the path of least resistance

Why would he try to win in a way that he might not have been able to? The fight he had was perfect, he took no damage and dominated the entire thing.

Also, the punches he was throwing, yes they were whimpy. However, on the van ride, he was explaining to his teammates a UFC rule. The fight will be stopped if a fighter is not intelligently defending himself. Was Kimbo defending himself? No.

Have you been reading my posts, or did you just pick one to respond to???

All he had to do was throw ONE power punch and I wouldn't be bitching.

I have stated several times in this thread that Kimbo was not winning, nor do I think he could have. No, he was not defending himself. The referee did his job and stopped the fight like he was supposed to.

If you liked the fight then good for you. I however, disagree.

For the record, I have seen all of the Ultimate Fighters seasons, and all of the events since UFC 1.

I don't have a problem with the stoppage. The ref couldn't have done it any differently. But, I still think Nelson wasn't trying and I was unimpressed by his win.

I dunno about you, but, I'd rather lose and look like a bad ass than win and look like a bitch. Nelson won and looked like a bitch.

Does that answer all of your questions? If not I respectfully suggest that maybe you should read some of my other posts in this thread.