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[Bloodbeard]

Hammortree vs. Tavares; The most awkward ground battle I've ever seen!. I didn't know how to score it in all honesty and I was wondering how you guys did it? With so many awkward positions and reversals that didn't really benefit either fighter. Do you just time how long someone has the dominant position? How much does advancing positions weigh? Personally I thought Hammertree won the fight but nonetheless it was very close. Close enough that I don't care but weird enough that I want to know what other people think. lol.

[ElvisLaw]

I thought Tavares won but can't really articulate exactly why. The ground battle was very strange. Both guys looked good on reversal technique but terrible on reversal defense, which in turn made the other guy look good on reversal technique. So in the end I couldn't really tell if they were doing well or the other guy was just shitty. Very even fight overall and I wouldn't have been mad if the decision went the other way.

[Bloodbeard]

Originally Posted by ElvisLaw

I thought Tavares won but can't really articulate exactly why. The ground battle was very strange. Both guys looked good on reversal technique but terrible on reversal defense, which in turn made the other guy look good on reversal technique. So in the end I couldn't really tell if they were doing well or the other guy was just shitty. Very even fight overall and I wouldn't have been mad if the decision went the other way.

I can see why Tavares took it. He landed the better strikes standing and Hammortree didn't do much to him when they were on the ground. I just wonder how the judges scored it exactly because I don't even know how. You have to admit most people watching that fight that knew anything about judging fights probably had no idea who was going to get the nod and that is a problem. lol. You would have to know your JJ and wrestling very well and keep a close eye on the clock to see who held the dominant position the longest and nothing I've ever seen has indicated that the judges even do that especially on TUF! Who knows where they get those judges. The bouts don't count on fighters records so I wonder how strict they are on who is judging the fights. Basically I feel like if I can't score it the judges probably couldn't either. So far at least Hammortree deserves the wildcard the most. lol Ortiz hasn't won a fight yet hopefully he can turn it around with such a stacked ass team.

[Caine2878]

I gave both rounds 1 and 2 to Hammortree. I didn't see Tavares do much of anything in either rounds to win the round. I was a bit shocked it went to a 3rd round.

[lwbrewer]

Didn't get to see it but Tito hasn't won a fight yet? The kids thought their recordings were more important. If Tito hasn't won yet I find that funny as people were projecting Chuck to get his butt kicked for his team picks. It only takes one to win the show hopefully as long as Tito is on he loses.lol