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05-20-2010, 08:43 AM
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| Straight kicks to the Knee
Uscola kicked McCray twice with front leg kicks to the knee and almost destroyed his knee on the second one. It hyper-extended backward and he grimaced and could barely stand up. Obviously he recovered and Uscola never threw another one in the fight.
How far is too far with these kicks? One of the first kicks I was taught to end fights is a side kick to the knee and step through it to break the knee joint and push it completely backwards. This would not be deemed very sportsman-like so why would these front knee kicks be allowed. A couple of them and it loosens the ligaments in the knee causing instability. They are very different from kicks to the thighs. It is a maiming technique used to incapacitate another fighter if done with enough force.
Just want some take on what people think is too far with these kicks to the knee joint.
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05-20-2010, 10:37 AM
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It's a very whimp ass move, and I think it should be banned from MMA
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05-20-2010, 12:54 PM
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yes they should be banned doesnt take much skill to land and can cause a lot of long lasting damage. if uscola didnt suck it couldve had a significant impact on the match.
also did anyone watch the stephan bonnar aftermath show where they said aftetr the show ended uscola got mauled by pitbulls and got his dick sliced in half? pretty messed up shit right there.
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05-20-2010, 02:38 PM
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2 replies on a topic about a strike that cause permanent damage? ACL surgery is not a cake-walk and not easy to come back and fight 100% from quickly. Maybe a full year to be full strength.
Also, very few fighters use this kick. Is there some fighter code not to use it? Silva, and Vera have used it but considering there are hundreds of fighters only 2 or 3 come to mind. Are they considered dirty fighters for using it? I think it is a dirty tactic and unnecessary as it is meant to maim and not punish. You cant tap while your knee is being hyperextended from a kick.
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05-20-2010, 02:47 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Anderson Silva attack Damian Maia's knee the same way?
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05-21-2010, 01:46 PM
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I'm still surprised that this isn't an illegal strike.
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05-21-2010, 01:56 PM
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I agree. I don't see the need for this kind of attack being allowed. It's too potent for little effort and really does not display skill, as it may be.
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05-21-2010, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by likebutta I agree. I don't see the need for this kind of attack being allowed. It's too potent for little effort and really does not display skill, as it may be. | It's just plain too dangerous with incredibly high risk. Like someone said above, you can't tap from this in time as it is a strike, which can lead to completely destroyed knees in a matter of 1/2 a second.
This is a technique more meant for self defense situations rather than combat sports, as we are not trying to intentionally injure an opponent to that extent.
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05-23-2010, 03:12 PM
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I think it shouldnt be used either thigh kick is ok but it should be considered worse then a low blow.
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05-23-2010, 07:51 PM
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Honestly I don't see anything wrong with it. If that's illegal then you'd have to start saying knee bars are illegal to, and so on.
You shouldn't have your feet planted anyways really, I suppose I learned from boxing for 3 years but even today I'm in MMA and I was taught to avoid keeping your feet planted. I slugger may have his feet planted but if your on the balls of your feet your able to move with it and avoid damage.
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