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[Zenshotokai]

If you did not see the TUF tonight, Cole took a nasty elbow to the back of the head that left him dizzy and unable to truly fight to his ability. The kid did not quit to take a win by default, but instead attempted to fight. You could tell that he was not there and soon lost the fight.

Should a fight be called (don't ask the fighter if they want to continue) when an illegal blow incapacitates the fighter to the point that they could be injuried.

Dana told him to not take the chance of injury and to stop. "Don't worry about being called a pussy!"

What do you guys think?

[Diegonightmare]

I say you do what they did. You have a doctor examine them, you ask them if they can continue. If the doctor finds no problem and they feel they can continue, you let them continue.

Of course, it's easy to say that in the comfort of my leather computer chair

[Mirko45]

He should've just stopped and taken the win. Nothing is worth the risk he put on himself. He showed a lot of heart though, and I'll bet he gets a fight on the finale

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

I say you do what they did. You have a doctor examine them, you ask them if they can continue. If the doctor finds no problem and they feel they can continue, you let them continue.

Of course, it's easy to say that in the comfort of my leather computer chair

The part that I hate was that Cole was doing well and you could tell that he was not the same fighter after the elbow. Lauzon did say sorry, but an illegal blow changed the course of the fight.

I agree, sitting back and watching it is easy to say let them go back in. I do know that some fighters use it as an excuse to not continue. Cole looked lost at the end of the fight. It was a shame to see him lose that way.

[Rufio]

Eh Dana's right but it would've sucked to see a fighter eliminated because of a DQ.

[Gmunit]

pretty sure it hasn't aired out West, can you edit and put "Spoiler" in the thread title?

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by Mirko45

He should've just stopped and taken the win. Nothing is worth the risk he put on himself. He showed a lot of heart though, and I'll bet he gets a fight on the finale

I wish Dana had said that they would get him checked out and that they would do it again. It was a good first round with lots of action and super MMA skills.

[Krazikarl]

Would it have been a DQ? A lot of times these tournaments have different rules. Anyway, from wikipedia:

"When a foul is charged, the referee in their discretion may deduct one or more points as a penalty. If a foul incapacitates a fighter, then the match may end in a disqualification if the foul was intentional, or a no contest if unintentional. If a foul causes a fighter to be unable to continue later in the bout, it ends with a technical decision win to the injured fighter if the injured fighter is ahead on points, otherwise it is a technical draw."

I think that Lauzon was ahead on points even after the deduction since I had him winning the first round. Actually it might have been tied...what happens if you have an illegal strike and the match is a tie on points?

Hmm, just read the NSAC rules at:

http://boxing.nv.gov/docs/MMA%20RULES%20Expained.pdf

It looks like it would have been declared a no contest provided that Lauzon wasnt behind on points (which I dont think he was). They might have special tournament rules in place though.

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by Krazikarl

Would it have been a DQ? A lot of times these tournaments have different rules. Anyway, from wikipedia:

"When a foul is charged, the referee in their discretion may deduct one or more points as a penalty. If a foul incapacitates a fighter, then the match may end in a disqualification if the foul was intentional, or a no contest if unintentional. If a foul causes a fighter to be unable to continue later in the bout, it ends with a technical decision win to the injured fighter if the injured fighter is ahead on points, otherwise it is a technical draw."

I think that Lauzon was ahead on points even after the deduction since I had him winning the first round. Actually it might have been tied...what happens if you have an illegal strike and the match is a tie on points?

It sounded like a DQ and then Cole would have been awarded the fight but he said that he did not want to win that way. Dana did not say what would have happened but it was infered that if there had been a DQ, Cole would have been awarded the win.

[Krazikarl]

Well, I was listening to the language of all of the people closely after the fight because I was curious. One guy from Pulver's team seemed to think for sure that Cole would have won, but you never know if a guy who is on one of the teams (and is obviously biased) knows what hes talking about. I didnt hear anything from Dana that suggested anything one way or another on the issue. He told Cole to not fight in the future in situations like that, but thats not saying anything about the result of the fight.

I think that the rules clearly indicate that the fight should be a draw under normal circumstances, but this is different from that.