Hermes was your pupil and you take him to America?
Hermes was my pupil from blue to black belt in BJJ. I bring him to America when he was a brown belt, even before American Top Team being created. We used to train at Silveira Brother’s, from Marcelo and Conan, when we, with Ricardo Libório, gave him the Jiu-Jitsu black belt. After that ATT was created and he joined it, but he did some shit and people wanted him out. We gave him another chance and he did shit again, and this time with Libório, and now he’s banned from the team. Then he went to Team Armony, but he did some shit there too…
And now your friendship is over and you have this rivalry?
Obviously he got out pissed, but we weren’t friends for a long time ago. He always was a little fishiness, and a lot of people were pissed with him. Almost the whole team doesn’t like him. The funny thing is that not only people from our team doesn’t like him. A lot of people called me wanting to help me for this fight, it was pretty funny, people calling me and saying: “Marcus, I wanna help you. You have to beat up this guy!”.
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